caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) assuming that he would be shown the door if the Cubs miss the postseason or go out after WC or play-in game. Too old? Too much of the Ozzie post~2005 self-importance syndrome? Keep in mind...pretty sure his jersey still might be selling better than anyone on the Sox but Jimenez. Also...would make for a much more interesting rivalry with the Cubs' Network and Girardi likely coming in. Maddon would definitely be motivated to prove St. Theo wrong...but he also could decide to hang 'em up. Finally...more local Beverage Depot advertising tied to Joe. Edited September 20, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Joe Maddon out manages himself way too often and has run pens into the ground. I don't think I want to see Wacky Joe lineups with Zack Collins leading off or Jose Abreu playing 3B. No thanks Edited September 20, 2019 by BackDoorBreach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Without question I would want Joe. No manager is perfect. He is better than 99% of the alternatives. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Joe Maddon out manages himself way too often and has run pens into the ground. I don't think I want to see Wacky Joe lineups with Zack Collins leading off or Jose Abreu playing 3B. No thanks Can you honestly say you think Renteria is a championship-level manager? How many post-season appearances does Joe have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'd rather have Girardi, but I'd take Maddon in a heartbeat over Renteria or any othe Reinsdorf crony. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Fuck no. Dude is on an Ozzie like career path. Won a title and started to think his shit didn't stink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Can you honestly say you think Renteria is a championship-level manager? How many post-season appearances does Joe have? Ricky Renteria is god fucking awful. This thread is about Joe Maddon, to have Joe Maddon would mean Ricky is gone. There are much better options than Maddon. If you think Jon Jay batting 4th in a non-compete year drove Sox fans mad, wew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) I’d take Maddon if he was available. Back when the Sox had Bevington, they went after Jim Leyland when he became a free agent. But he went to Miami in part because of how the Sox treated his buddy Lamont, who was a pretty good manager himself. I am not a Renteria guy, but he is nowhere near the same bad Bevington was. Still, if they have a shot at Maddon, they would be fools not to take it. His act will grow old, but not for a while. He would be a huge upgrade, and show the fan base you finally mean business. But the problem is Joe Maddon doesn’t like his pitchers throwing cutters.Don Cooper would love if every one of his pitchers threw cutters.Something would have to give that JR, RH, and KW won’t let give. Edited September 20, 2019 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Sandy Alomar, Vizquel, Jirschele and McEwing are the four most obvious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I’d take Maddon if he was available. Back when the Sox had Bevington, they went after Jim Leyland when he became a free agent. But he went to Miami in part because of how the Sox treated his buddy Lamont, who was a pretty good manager himself. I am not a Renteria guy, but he is nowhere near the same bad Bevington was. Still, if they have a shot at Maddon, they would be fools not to take it. His act will grow old, but not for a while. He would be a huge upgrade, and show the fan base you finally mean business. Would MUCH rather invest that money in a manager than Yolmer, Herrera, Nova, Jay, Castillo, etc. Look what it has done for Indians or Twins. Or Cardinals improving their defense from 30th to 1st since the changeover late last year. Edited September 20, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 No thanks. Seems like a terrible fit culturally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Yet somehow we've lost LaRussa, Leyland and Francona from within the organization. Not sure exactly what the Sox culture is, beyond JR loyalism/cronyism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Can you honestly say you think Renteria is a championship-level manager? How many post-season appearances does Joe have? Our guy could play Walter Matthieu in Bad News Bears. Joe is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: No thanks. Seems like a terrible fit culturally I agree with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: No thanks. Seems like a terrible fit culturally He worked fine with a young Cubs team. He would be fine here. Unless you're saying we need a fluent bilingual speaking manager, which limits our options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, ron883 said: He worked fine with a young Cubs team. He would be fine here. Unless you're saying we need a fluent bilingual speaking manager, which limits our options. That is exactly what we're saying. Moncada y Robert no hablan Ingles muy bien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Not a Maddon fan but he is waaaaaaay better than Renteria. At least he'll know how to use his players and his lineup construction, albeit wacky, at least has some logic. "Why is Zack Collins batting leadoff?" Well the Twins are batting their fucking catcher leadoff right now.. Why? OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Not a Maddon fan but he is waaaaaaay better than Renteria. At least he'll know how to use his players and his lineup construction, albeit wacky, at least has some logic. "Why is Zack Collins batting leadoff?" Well the Twins are batting their fucking catcher leadoff right now.. Why? OBP. Exactly. People are acting like he is Ricky Renteria bad. He has been very successful during his managerial career... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: Fuck no. Dude is on an Ozzie like career path. Won a title and started to think his shit didn't stink. And he almost cost his team a championship with his over-managing. Hell the fuck no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Joe Maddon out manages himself way too often and has run pens into the ground. I don't think I want to see Wacky Joe lineups with Zack Collins leading off or Jose Abreu playing 3B. No thanks I agree 100%. Maddon is the only manager I've ever seen put in his Closer in the 7th inning of Game 6 with a 5 run lead (and have him finish the game) when he knew damn well there was a good chance he'd need that Closer the next night. That move almost came back to bite him in the ass as Chapman blew the Save in Game 7.... this is just one example. Maddon was good when the whole Disco Room/petting zoo/magician stuff was working, but that act has grown tiresome. Maddon is good at managing people, but when it comes to Xs and Os, I'd almost rather have Ricky. ? Maddon is on his way out the door up there, and nearly every Cub I know could care less. Come on people, we can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: That is exactly what we're saying. Moncada y Robert no hablan Ingles muy bien. Then get an interpreter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Then get an interpreter. They already have one. Ever see Moncada do interviews with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, Donaldo said: Come on people, we can do better. But JR won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: They already have one. Ever see Moncada do interviews with him? So then we don't need a bilingual manager. That's the point. Hire the best manager available whether he speaks Spanish or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: So then we don't need a bilingual manager. That's the point. Hire the best manager available whether he speaks Spanish or not. It's not only a language thing it's a cultural thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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