ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:14 AM, fathom said: I like what I’m hearing today Expand Talk doesn’t mean anything. Action does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:20 AM, Lillian said: After last off season, it's hard to believe that they would be so foolish as to be saying such things, unless they were prepared to spend, really significantly. I'm encouraged. Expand You are that gullible? The White Sox sank last year. They've never had any significant free agent move like the ones we hope for. Their offseason last year was one of the worst offseasons I've ever seen from a franchise in baseball. They'll sign some people this year, it'll likely be something like Castellanos (Old and unbelievably bad at defense), Keuchel (not great and probably on downturn), and some middle pieces that will be overpaid for (i.e. nova, jay, alonso). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:21 AM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Talk doesn’t mean anything. Action does. Expand Exactly. Put your money where your mouth is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:20 AM, Lillian said: After last off season, it's hard to believe that they would be so foolish as to be saying such things, unless they were prepared to spend, really significantly. I'm encouraged. Expand I’m certain they plan to be aggressive and I’m optimistic that everyone after the big three should be attainable despite Jerry’s limited risk tolerance. That being said, you just never with this guy and last offseason was an example of that. They said they were serious and ultimately made a large but half-assed offer for Machado. This year they simply need to get shit done...the time for excuses is over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:25 AM, iWiN4PreP said: You are that gullible? The White Sox sank last year. They've never had any significant free agent move like the ones we hope for. Their offseason last year was one of the worst offseasons I've ever seen from a franchise in baseball. They'll sign some people this year, it'll likely be something like Castellanos (Old and unbelievably bad at defense), Keuchel (not great and probably on downturn), and some middle pieces that will be overpaid for (i.e. nova, jay, alonso). Expand Castellanos old? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:07 AM, DirtySox said: Expand Nice try Rick with the short term suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:28 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Castellanos old? Expand Sorry, mistake, he's only 27, just figured because he's slow and terrible defense he's old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Let's take a stab: Y. Grandal - White Sox, 4/68 N. Castellanos 4/58 J. Abreu - 2/28 RP W Harris 2/18 (or Will Smith for more) SP - Damn, I really don't know. I REALLY don't want Keuchel but he's the most realistic. Ryu? Eh. Wish I could say Cole. All contracts from: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/mlb-free-agent-predictions-2020.html Edited November 13, 2019 by iWiN4PreP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 12:13 AM, Chicago White Sox said: 100% agree. The plan should be to sign Wheeler (or theoretically Cole/Strasburg) to a multi-year deal and then add another cheaper starter on a one year deal like Wood or Gonzalez. That gives you an opening day rotation of Giolito, Wheeler, Cease, Wood, & Lopez. Kopech comes up after he recovers that lost year of service time and replaces the weak man in the rotation. Rodon serves as a wild card this year and is used in the bullpen if necessary. Come 2021 him, Lopez, Dunning, & Lambert compete for the 5th starter spot. That makes Stiever very much expendable IMO and I think he goes in a trade for a RF this offseason. Expand And Rodon for 2021? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 2:15 AM, caulfield12 said: And Rodon for 2021? Expand Rodon should compete with Lopez, Dunning, & Lambert for the 5th starter spot. Honestly, if Lopez or Dunning steps up, we might be best off just using Rodon as a reliever in 2021. He might be lethal in that role a la Andrew Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) On 11/13/2019 at 2:29 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Rodon should compete with Lopez, Dunning, & Lambert for the 5th starter spot. Honestly, if Lopez or Dunning steps up, we might be best off just using Rodon as a reliever in 2021. He might be lethal in that role a la Andrew Miller. Expand I can't imagine that Rodon would be very happy about that, heading into his free agent year. Not sure what recourse he would have, but he wouldn't be a happy camper. Edited November 13, 2019 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:00 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I mean, MLBTR has him getting $6M and Fangraphs didn’t rank him amongst the top 50 free agents. Gun to head, I’d put him at like $7M and that extra $8M is substantial enough for a decent back of the rotation starter or bullpen piece. Expand At that price, maybe I AM on the Calhoun train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 11:15 PM, aeichhor said: Expand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Temper your expectations......This is more in line with what Bruuuuuce is saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:20 AM, Lillian said: After last off season, it's hard to believe that they would be so foolish as to be saying such things, unless they were prepared to spend, really significantly. I'm encouraged. Expand Exactly my thinking Lillian. I see no reason why they would talk a big game and leave themselves open to the massive criticism and ridicule that would follow if they strikeout. They are going to spend big this offseason. It's their chance to be the winners in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:14 AM, Jack Parkman said: Temper your expectations......This is more in line with what Bruuuuuce is saying Expand Don't read too much into a single tweet. The majority of quotes and tweets indicate they're going big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:07 AM, DirtySox said: Expand Welp, I’m ready to be hurt again. All aboard the hope train toot toot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:14 AM, Jack Parkman said: Temper your expectations......This is more in line with what Bruuuuuce is saying Expand Lol...he legit says they’d like to add core guys in that very tweet. It’s not even remotely realistic to expect long-term additions at every spot. There will need be some placeholders and that’s a good thing unless you enjoyed watching the black holes sprinkled throughout our roster last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:35 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Lol...he legit says they’d like to add core guys in that very tweet. It’s not even remotely realistic to expect long-term additions at every spot. There will need be some placeholders and that’s a good thing unless you enjoyed watching the black holes sprinkled throughout our roster last year. Expand I think the big difference between this year and last is that they’re actually interested in filling holes, whereas last year they just wanted their one guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:42 AM, mqr said: I think the big difference between this year and last is that they’re actually interested in filling holes, whereas last year they just wanted their one guy. Expand Yup, that was pretty much the plan last year. Now they will look to add impact players AND plus holes with stopgaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 2:43 AM, Lillian said: I can't imagine that Rodon would be very happy about that, heading into his free agent year. Not sure what recourse he would have, but he wouldn't be a happy camper. Expand He should have thought of that before he couldn't stay healthy enough to pitch, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 ??? OH BOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 2:43 AM, Lillian said: I can't imagine that Rodon would be very happy about that, heading into his free agent year. Not sure what recourse he would have, but he wouldn't be a happy camper. Expand If Rodon becomes a reliever and is really good at it, he could make more money than he would as a mediocre starting pitcher. But I think he still has the stuff to be a starter, he just has to stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 4:37 AM, teorey23 said: ??? OH BOY Expand lol I remember you...You were the guy that kept telling us to “get ready” for the Machado signing last year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 4:37 AM, teorey23 said: ??? OH BOY Expand Look who's back. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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