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bmags Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 9/30/2019 at 12:10 PM, Balta1701 said: If he's not going to take a discount to stay with the Dodgers, the Dodgers aren't going to overpay to keep him from hitting FA. They'll put a fair offer on the table and if he doesn't fit their needs, they'll walk away. It's not like they're sitting on a huge hole in their OF that they will be $400 million desperate to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, asherwood12 said: This makes me think the Joc to Sox deal could finally happen with Mookie locking up RF... Dodgers will want to move Joc. Nothing changes for this year. Joc is a free agent after this year. Plus, Joc also plays 1B and can DH this season. It's a Dodgers wetdream being able to have this deep of a bench. Edited July 22, 2020 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) Glad he's signing elsewhere this quickly, tired of reading delusional Sox fans everywhere thinking Betts and +$300 million was ever an option. Edited July 22, 2020 by HOFHurt35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bmags said: It's important for me to point out for my self-esteem that I was right and everyone was mean to me except @TomPickle ? (and obviously, I am still very excited for the white sox, and covid blah blah) edit and @Harold's Leg Lift Except there's a big difference in the Dodgers trading for a guy like Betts and the Sox trading for him and hoping to resign him coming out of a rebuild and needing every plus arm like Cease. The Dodgers have made the playoffs many years in a row and have seemingly unlimited resources. The Sox have never even been to the playoffs 2 years in a row and never have nor will they ever come close to salary tax limitations. Now if you had argued it makes sense for the Dodgers to trade for him and try to resign him I would have agreed with you. but the Sox ? nahhhh ! So you were still wrong and that's not being mean its just we are not the Dodgers. Edited July 22, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, bmags said: There is a very real chance that the Pandemic changed his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Except there's a big difference in the Dodgers trading for a guy like Betts and the Sox trading for him and hoping to resign him coming out of a rebuild and needing every plus arm like Cease. The Dodgers have made the playoffs many years in a row and have seemingly unlimited resources. The Sox have never even been to the playoffs 2 years in a row and never have nor will they ever come close to salary tax limitations. Now if you had argued it makes sense for the Dodgers to trade for him and try to resign him I would have agreed with you. but the Sox ? nahhhh ! So you were still wrong and that's not being mean its just we are not the Dodgers. Naw, sorry, I was told up and down that he is not signing before FA. And no, the sox would actually be fucking awesome with Mookie Betts for the next 13 years so this is also wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: There is a very real chance that the Pandemic changed his mind. Are you suggesting that the White Sox not trading for Mookie Betts is responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Naw, sorry, I was told up and down that he is not signing before FA. And no, the sox would actually be fucking awesome with Mookie Betts for the next 13 years so this is also wrong. LOl naw sorry It would be Mookie Betts and a bunch of scrubs with the the way the Sox do business. I don't remember if I ever said he wouldn't sign before FA but he certainly would have if the Sox traded for him because there's no way the Sox would have signed him for what the Dodgers eventually do.Just because he resigned with the Dodgers only makes you partially right. But you actually thinking the Sox could pull it off was wrong. Winning is fucking awesome not depleting your whole roster just to have Mopkie Betts . Only a team like the Yankees or Dodgers could have accomplished this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, TomPickle said: Are you suggesting that the White Sox not trading for Mookie Betts is responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic?!? Or so the Germans would have you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said: Nothing changes for this year. Joc is a free agent after this year. Plus, Joc also plays 1B and can DH this season. It's a Dodgers wetdream being able to have this deep of a bench. So wait Joc can happen now????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I think we can all agree that bmags was right and he should feel good about being right. Congrats bmags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kalapse said: I think we can all agree that bmags was right and he should feel good about being right. Congrats bmags All it took was a pandemic and 2nd highest amout of money in MLB history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kalapse said: I think we can all agree that bmags was right and he should feel good about being right. Congrats bmags Yes we can all agree the Sox could have traded for him , without crippling their young pitching staff , still had a chance to compete this year ,signed him to a $350M contract for 10 years and approach the Dodgers and other teams at the height of the salary structure and kept on making the playoffs every year . Lead pipe cinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Yes we can all agree the Sox could have traded for him , without crippling their young pitching staff , still had a chance to compete this year ,signed him to a $350M contract for 10 years and approach the Dodgers and other teams at the height of the salary structure and kept on making the playoffs every year . Lead pipe cinch. i mean I wouldn't label it a lead pipe cinch as you did but yeah, that's the ticket, good to see you coming around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Kalapse said: I think we can all agree that bmags was right and he should feel good about being right. Congrats bmags I’ve wanted this for so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Kalapse said: i mean I wouldn't label it a lead pipe cinch as you did but yeah, that's the ticket, good to see you coming around If by "good to see me coming around" means I completely disagree that we can all agree bmags was right then yes I am coming around.But hey if bmags feels vindicated by the Dodgers signing him to a long term deal then I do agree he has every right to feel the way he feels after we were meanies to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, bmags said: It's important for me to point out for my self-esteem that I was right and everyone was mean to me except @TomPickle ? (and obviously, I am still very excited for the white sox, and covid blah blah) edit and @Harold's Leg Lift You (sorta) remembered me this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) On 10/1/2019 at 7:27 AM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Everyone knows ALonso and Jay were Manny acquisitions . It's also probably why the Sox supposedly had interest in Nelson Cruz, If anyone remembers Manny wrote an article in the Players Tribune on why he was playing for the DR in the WBC and it emphasized family. So it's perhaps the reason why the Sox did what they did regarding Machado. It might also be the reason for Colome and Nova and Welington Castillo from earlier , all team mates on that 2017 team. I'm as leery of the front office as you and there are some good value picks out there along with the headliner. Our best hope is they get 2 headliners 1 from the starting pitching group and 1 from positional players then mix and match to maximize power, OBP, left handedness , positional versatiilty, defense and the bullpen. If they keep these things in mind there are plenty of names that could be had on reasonable deals, I do not expect failure but I also do not expect 100% hits and I also don't expect them to fill all the holes to make a playoff team but enough to put the Sox into a position for a big run in 2021. Betts can be discussed then if available. Well as long as we are claiming to be right . This my post with the names now plugged into it to prove I was right. Our best hope is they get 2 headliners 1 from the starting pitching group (Keuchel) and 1 from positional players (Grandal) then mix and match to maximize power, (Grandal, Encarncion, Mazara) OBP (Grandal,Encarnacion) left handedness (Grandal, Mazara, Gio Gonzalez, Keuchel)) , positional versatiilty, defense (Grandal) and the bullpen(Cishek). If they keep these things in mind there are plenty of names that could be had on reasonable deals. Hahn basically followed my plan to a tee. And with Robert looking great and Cease looking pretty good and Lambert Dunning and Rodon all looking like they could contribute significantly it's looking even better than I had hoped for this year.Sucks to lose Mazara for however long it is though and Kopech. Edited July 22, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: There is a very real chance that the Pandemic changed his mind. As well as the contentious relationship between the MLB and the MLBPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I would much rather have Mookie compared to Machado and Harper. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said: Glad he's signing elsewhere this quickly, tired of reading delusional Sox fans everywhere thinking Betts and +$300 million was ever an option. The White Sox still don’t have $100 million contract do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I would not sign Jesus for 12 years. Poor value down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, chetkincaid said: The White Sox still don’t have $100 million contract do they? Yoan will be if he plays it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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