If Sox fans crowd funded a billboard on the Dan Ryan, what would the message be?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Get a clue and stop trading your International Bonus Pool  money and trade up once in a while .

[soxfan3530]

GERRIT COLE OR WE RIOT

[knightni]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Get a clue and stop trading your International Bonus Pool  money and trade up once in a while .

Didn't they trade it because they went over the cap previously and couldn't use it anyway?

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, knightni said:

Didn't they trade it because they went over the cap previously and couldn't use it anyway?

They've traded it a few times in the near past and before that. The most recent was withTX to take Nate Jones meaning they had money they could have used but didn't.

Other times when they were in the penalty they could only sign players at 300K or less. That means they could have used all the money but on more inexpensive types but chose not to do the quantity over quality type signings.

My main point is use the money MLB gives you to sustain success instead of discarding it. Guys like Robles and Acuna and many others come from that money. There are many success stories out there and Sox have none because they ignored it and had the Wilder scandal. The one success story they could have had was traded away , Tatis, Jr. Accumulate assets. MLB gives each team free money to do just that and its largely been squandered until Luis Robert .  A part of the Twins success this year is based on 3 guys they developed through IFA. The Nats have Robles, Braves Acuna and on and on.

Edited October 1, 2019 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[zisk]

Dear Gerrit, How do I love thee.....

[Bob Sacamano]

On 9/30/2019 at 2:20 PM, soxfan2014 said:

Danny DeVito with his thumbs up and girls with giant cans around him. No words.

For those that don't understand the reference...

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Edited October 1, 2019 by soxfan2014

[ewokpelts]

2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

They've traded it a few times in the near past and before that. The most recent was withTX to take Nate Jones meaning they had money they could have used but didn't.

Other times when they were in the penalty they could only sign players at 300K or less. That means they could have used all the money but on more inexpensive types but chose not to do the quantity over quality type signings.

My main point is use the money MLB gives you to sustain success instead of discarding it. Guys like Robles and Acuna and many others come from that money. There are many success stories out there and Sox have none because they ignored it and had the Wilder scandal. The one success story they could have had was traded away , Tatis, Jr. Accumulate assets. MLB gives each team free money to do just that and its largely been squandered until Luis Robert .  A part of the Twins success this year is based on 3 guys they developed through IFA. The Nats have Robles, Braves Acuna and on and on.

The Sox had severe international pool penalties for signing Robert.   They cannot exceed a certain amount of international bonus pool money in 2018 2019 and 2020. 

 

They are trading gift cards for restaurants that are in another town for a coupon for one in their town. 

 

Jones salary was picked up by tejas. The pool money was just a cherry on top. 

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[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, ewokpelts said:

The Sox had severe international pool penalties for signing Robert.   They cannot exceed a certain amount of international bonus pool money in 2018 2019 and 2020. 

 

They are trading gift cards for restaurants that are in another town for a coupon for one in their town. 

 

Jones salary was picked up by tejas. The pool money was just a cherry on top. 

From MLBTR from April 11,2019 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/04/mlb-releases-2019-20-international-bonus-pools.html

Major League Baseball has released the bonus pools for each team for the 2019-20 international market, as Baseball America’s Ben Badler provides. There are no longer any carryover spending limitations from the prior international system, so every team is free now to operate without limitation under the new rules — though there is one organization that still faces a notable limitation. (Braves)

Also from MLBTR for the 2018-2019 signing period.

Under the previous CBA’s signing system, teams were penalized for going over their pool limits by being limited to signing players for no more than $300K.  Eight teams (the Astros, A’s, Braves, Cardinals, Nationals, Padres, Reds, and White Sox) are still under this penalty for the 2018-19 international pool, though seven of them will be able to exceed the $300K once the 2019-20 int’l signing period opens on July 2, 2019.  The Braves are the exception ..

The Sox traded Jones in late July so the Sox were able to exceed the 300K limit after July 2nd, 2019. They gave up $1M of the slot money to the Rangers. They got 2 pitchers in return but as many here and on twitter thought it was a very strange deal .

And again in case you missed it many teams made signings before the Sox were in the penalty. What did the Sox do? Do they have anyone valuable to the team now because of signing some 16 yr olds before the penalties like the Twins did /6/7/8 years ago.  

The Twins are just a small sample of teams that got great value from that money just as the Sox couldve done had they kept Tatis or spent it on others in the Tatis years or before the Robert penalty. No argument can be made otherwise. Ad apparently what you just told me since I gave you proof from MLBTR was wrong and the things you got right like the 300K limit I had already posted .

Edited October 1, 2019 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

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[caulfield12]

3 hours ago, ewokpelts said:

The Sox had severe international pool penalties for signing Robert.   They cannot exceed a certain amount of international bonus pool money in 2018 2019 and 2020. 

 

They are trading gift cards for restaurants that are in another town for a coupon for one in their town. 

 

Jones salary was picked up by tejas. The pool money was just a cherry on top. 

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[ewokpelts]

16 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

From MLBTR from April 11,2019 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/04/mlb-releases-2019-20-international-bonus-pools.html

Major League Baseball has released the bonus pools for each team for the 2019-20 international market, as Baseball America’s Ben Badler provides. There are no longer any carryover spending limitations from the prior international system, so every team is free now to operate without limitation under the new rules — though there is one organization that still faces a notable limitation. (Braves)

Also from MLBTR for the 2018-2019 signing period.

Under the previous CBA’s signing system, teams were penalized for going over their pool limits by being limited to signing players for no more than $300K.  Eight teams (the Astros, A’s, Braves, Cardinals, Nationals, Padres, Reds, and White Sox) are still under this penalty for the 2018-19 international pool, though seven of them will be able to exceed the $300K once the 2019-20 int’l signing period opens on July 2, 2019.  The Braves are the exception ..

The Sox traded Jones in late July so the Sox were able to exceed the 300K limit after July 2nd, 2019. They gave up $1M of the slot money to the Rangers. They got 2 pitchers in return but as many here and on twitter thought it was a very strange deal .

And again in case you missed it many teams made signings before the Sox were in the penalty. What did the Sox do? Do they have anyone valuable to the team now because of signing some 16 yr olds before the penalties like the Twins did /6/7/8 years ago.  

The Twins are just a small sample of teams that got great value from that money just as the Sox couldve done had they kept Tatis or spent it on others in the Tatis years or before the Robert penalty. No argument can be made otherwise. Ad apparently what you just told me since I gave you proof from MLBTR was wrong and the things you got right like the 300K limit I had already posted .

Tatis was worth 27 million dollars of James shields’ salary and getting Erik Johnson the hell out of dodge. 

 

Thats all jerry cares about. The jones trade clears payroll to increase profit. Losing the international pool money is nothing to him. 

 

Because that “free money” isn’t free. It’s mlb telling teams what they are looked to spend as international signing bonuses. 

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