Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What you just stated is literally the definition of an assumption. Not when you know what you're looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's not an assumption. A fringe avg major league athlete can play a capable 1B. Frank Thomas and his performance would disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Not when you know what you're looking at. Oh. I can name some pretty bad first baseman that were better at other positions if youd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Knock yourself out, Big Fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Nomar, Ryan Zimmerman, Michael Young, Pedro Alvarez, Hanley, Cuddyer, Grandal, Frazier, Glaus, and Desmond are a list of players who were better at their harder original positions than they were at 1st base. A handful of them are significantly better athletes. I pulled this from 2005 to today. The list is likely longer if we go back further. Edited October 11, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Can you list the ages of these players when they moved to 1B? Pedro Alvarez was a better 3B than 1B. Is that a joke. Hanley Ramirez wasn't good anywhere. Is Frazier supposed to be Todd Frazier? When did he move to 1B? Michael Young played 111 career games at 1B. Troy Glaus played 120. Don't bother looking anything up. I'm not wasting my time on this any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Can you list the ages of these players when they moved to 1B? Pedro Alvarez was a better 3B than 1B. Is that a joke. Hanley Ramirez wasn't good anywhere. Is Frazier supposed to be Todd Frazier? When did he move to 1B? Michael Young played 111 career games at 1B. Troy Glaus played 120. Don't bother looking anything up. I'm not wasting my time on this any longer Yes, when you adjust for positional value Alvarez was "better" at third because despite being bad there it's much worse to be bad at first than it is to be bad at third. He was bad at third and first but given that first baseman are judged vs other first baseman it's bad to be just as negative there. Kris Bryant is another one who is running lower comparative defensive metrics at first than other positions. What impact would age make? Wouldnt it be negligible when taking into account that they are moving to a position in which range isnt all that demanding? Edited October 11, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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