hi8is Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Is it April yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 the hell with this. Wheeler would be like getting a yellow sweater for Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 7:28 PM, bmags said: They could just trade him in year 4. Expand Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 7:09 PM, caulfield12 said: Therein lies the point. Wheeler bumps from expected 4/$80 to 5 and even 6 year deals. Hahn then turns around and argues that money in Year 5/6 needs to go to extensions of players already under control...the window has to be extended and not limited to 2021-23. Meanwhile, we still aren’t getting the quality of pitching to make us sure fire contenders for those three years, let alone 2024-26. Expand Nothing has actually happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 9:46 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Nothing has actually happened... Expand Sure, Sox fans have become conditioned to expect the worst, I guess. Stockholm Syndrome, or something. When I created this thread, the odds on Wheeler from an acquisition standpoint felt at least 50/50. They could still shock the world and sign him for $100+ million and at least five years, but I’m certainly not counting on it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 11:56 PM, caulfield12 said: Sure, Sox fans have become conditioned to expect the worst, I guess. Stockholm Syndrome, or something. When I created this thread, the odds on Wheeler from an acquisition standpoint felt at least 50/50. They could still shock the world and sign him for $100+ million and at least five years, but I’m certainly not counting on it at this point. Expand I mean, they have a payroll of 70 million after Abreu and arb figures. 20 million a year isn't exactly crazy for a top pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 11:56 PM, caulfield12 said: Sure, Sox fans have become conditioned to expect the worst, I guess. Stockholm Syndrome, or something. Expand There's a reason not to expect the worst when it comes to free agency with this organization? This organization has failed hard in free agency almost every year (on that same note, so have the Bulls). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Has he had TJ twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 2:49 AM, hi8is said: Has he had TJ twice? Expand Just once I think. Sox should be in the mix, but I think Wheeler will have the strongest market of almost any free agent. Sox not being an instant contender might hurt unless they pay up big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 8:24 PM, steveno89 said: Just once I think. Sox should be in the mix, but I think Wheeler will have the strongest market of almost any free agent. Sox not being an instant contender might hurt unless they pay up big time. Expand Reports out that Twins met with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Richard Justice predicted Yankees would sign him in his article today. He loves Sox, but had us listed as destination for none of the top ten guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 11:29 PM, caulfield12 said: Richard Justice predicted Yankees would sign him in his article today. He loves Sox, but had us listed as destination for none of the top ten guys. Expand Probably because the sox would have to spend money and that sox have a tough time doing that on premier talent. Until they shows us otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 11:37 PM, aeichhor said: Probably because the sox would have to spend money and that sox have a tough time doing that on premier talent. Until they shows us otherwise Expand Correct. Sox only like to spend on mediocre or bad talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 JP Morosi on hot stove said white sox are one of teams he's heard alot being in on wheeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 2:49 PM, aeichhor said: JP Morosi on hot stove said white sox are one of teams he's heard alot being in on wheeler Expand LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 No one cares what a single baseball writer thinks a players destination will be. MLBTraderumors does predictions every off-season; based on feedback and things they're hearing and etc. They get about 4-6 out of the top 50 right every off-season. No one has any idea where anyone is signing or going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) On 11/19/2019 at 2:49 PM, aeichhor said: JP Morosi on hot stove said white sox are one of teams he's heard alot being in on wheeler Expand Usually then Passan follows, if that happens, I like the odds. For some reason I always get Zack Wheeler and Dylan Bundy confused, which is why I didn't like the interest as much. I'm ok with going 5/100 for Wheeler as a #2. Wheeler was dealt for Beltran.... Bundy was never dealt. I'll get it one day. Edited November 19, 2019 by Soxnfins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) On 11/19/2019 at 3:33 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No one cares what a single baseball writer thinks a players destination will be. MLBTraderumors does predictions every off-season; based on feedback and things they're hearing and etc. They get about 4-6 out of the top 50 right every off-season. No one has any idea where anyone is signing or going. Expand I don't necessarily disagree with you, but Morosi is credible and not making things up out of thin air. FWIW, he said that the "leading group " for Wheeler right now is the White Sox, Angels, Padres, and Twins. He also said his market already has a good deal of clarity and he might sign before both Cole and Strasburg. I could definitely see Wheeler's free agency playing out similarly to Corbin's last year -- it was reported relatively early last offseason that his serious suitors were the Nationals, Yankees, and Phillies (turned out to be accurate). The Nationals bit and offered him the 6th year, and he signed on Dec. 7. Edited November 20, 2019 by Perfect Vision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Would the White Sox go five on Wheeler, let alone six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BackDoorBreach Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 8:50 PM, caulfield12 said: Would the White Sox go five on Wheeler, let alone six? Expand He's going to get 5 from someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 “Seat at the table” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 8:50 PM, caulfield12 said: Would the White Sox go five on Wheeler, let alone six? Expand If we don't go 5 we have no chance. Of course we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 9:14 PM, Orlando said: Expand Even though him signing with the Twins would actually be a much worse scenario, I will lose my shit if he signs with the Padres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 They really need to just pay him. If we get stuck with Keuchel I'll be fucking pissed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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