bmags Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The Mets are one of the few teams worse than the Sox defensively, and the addition of Robert and a good defensive RF could be a big help to players like Wheeler (in addition to grandal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Goober said: Yesssss can't wait to sign pitcher with 3.96 era last year. Lolololol look at yourselves Gerrit Cole, 3.86 and 4.28 ERA’s in Pittsburgh before he became one of the top five pitchers in baseball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Just now, Goober said: Yesssss can't wait to sign pitcher with 3.96 era last year. Lolololol look at yourselves B-b-b-but FREE AGENCY spend some money dadgummit. Just imagine MadBum in our pitcher's park. I would like Wheeler though just get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Really hope 5/$100M is the max for Wheeler. Felt good about it being $100M earlier in the offseason, but it is just so hard to know - that Corbin deal scares me a bit. Obviously would still be happy as a fan with a 5/$110M or $6/$125M deal, but man that is a lot of money to bet on a good not great pitcher. At some point, it just makes sense to spend the extra $10M AAV and actually get one of the best pitchers in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Really hope 5/$100M is the max for Wheeler. Felt good about it being $100M earlier in the offseason, but it is just so hard to know - that Corbin deal scares me a bit. Obviously would still be happy as a fan with a 5/$110M or $6/$125M deal, but man that is a lot of money to bet on a good not great pitcher. At some point, it just makes sense to spend the extra $10M AAV and actually get one of the best pitchers in the game. Sorry, that money went to Abreu since he is just such a good guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindersrule Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, ron883 said: Sorry, that money went to Abreu since he is just such a good guy I mostly just lurk, but please give it a rest. I think we all know your feelings on Abreu by now. There's no need to put the same opinion up over and over and over.... 8 13 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Really hope 5/$100M is the max for Wheeler. Felt good about it being $100M earlier in the offseason, but it is just so hard to know - that Corbin deal scares me a bit. Obviously would still be happy as a fan with a 5/$110M or $6/$125M deal, but man that is a lot of money to bet on a good not great pitcher. At some point, it just makes sense to spend the extra $10M AAV and actually get one of the best pitchers in the game. I wonder if they would consider Cole if Wheeler passes on the Sox? Because it seems to fall off a cliff after Wheeler, especially if one thinks Madbum will go to an NL team or team closer to his home in North Carolina. I do not want them spending money on Keuchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sarava said: I wonder if they would consider Cole if Wheeler passes on the Sox? Because it seems to fall off a cliff after Wheeler, especially if one thinks Madbum will go to an NL team or team closer to his home in North Carolina. I do not want them spending money on Keuchel. This is how I feel too. If you miss on Wheeler you pretty much have to go after Cole or Stras. I mean Ryu wouldn't be awful, I guess? But after him there is nobody I would want. They would have to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: This is how I feel too. If you miss on Wheeler you pretty much have to go after Cole or Stras. I mean Ryu wouldn't be awful, I guess? But after him there is nobody I would want. They would have to trade. I don't have any issues with them going after Bumgarner. Even though it feels like he's 35 years old, he's somehow only 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Grindersrule said: I mostly just lurk, but please give it a rest. I think we all know your feelings on Abreu by now. There's no need to put the same opinion up over and over and over.... New SoxTalk record for likes on one post. Good job, Kotsay/Epstein/Getz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Goober said: Yesssss can't wait to sign pitcher with 3.96 era last year. Lolololol look at yourselves 3.50 FIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Just now, Grindersrule said: I mostly just lurk, but please give it a rest. I think we all know your feelings on Abreu by now. There's no need to put the same opinion up over and over and over.... He is a one-trick pony hopefully a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I don't have any issues with them going after Bumgarner. Even though it feels like he's 35 years old, he's somehow only 30. He's given up a scary amount of HR's. I don't think he would translate well going from NL to AL + GRF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: He's given up a scary amount of HR's. I don't think he would translate well going from NL to AL + GRF. That's a fair concern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Don’t think he would be happy in the AL game, giving up his hitting and seems very comfortable on the West Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Goober said: Yesssss can't wait to sign pitcher with 3.96 era last year. Lolololol look at yourselves You've certainly earned the 2 words under your name Mr. Sheloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 6:35 AM, SoxBlanco said: Yeah, I think the three most likely players are Castellanos, Calhoun, and Peralta. They're probably doing their homework on 25 guys including blocked or unblocked AAA guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 hours ago, ron883 said: Sorry, that money went to Abreu since he is just such a good guy Well, you’re right about that - Abreu is “just such a good guy”. Nice to see the improvement in your way of thinking on him! But you’ll be also happy to know that money being spent on Abreu is a drop in the pond in the grand scheme of things, what with the new TV contract in place and what not. Still plenty left over to spend on elite talent to help take our Sox to the next level - with Jose, leading the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 They sign him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: Well, you’re right about that - Abreu is “just such a good guy”. Nice to see the improvement in your way of thinking on him! But you’ll be also happy to know that money being spent on Abreu is a drop in the pond in the grand scheme of things, what with the new TV contract in place and what not. Still plenty left over to spend on elite talent to help take our Sox to the next level - with Jose, leading the way! Except we don't know that, 100%. We just know that it's open to being renegotiated in five year's time. One can make two assumptions...that the deal is fronting them more money than past ratings would merit (allowing the White Sox to significantly increase payroll?), investing in creating a better entertainment product from 2020-24, or; NBC Universal wants the protection on the back end of the deal that if the rebuild is a flop, they're not stuck paying the White Sox above-market rates over 20-25 years for a team that's put together some of the worst 2-3 year local ratings since the Astros in the beginning of their rebuild. Edited November 25, 2019 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: They're probably doing their homework on 25 guys including blocked or unblocked AAA guys. Small sample size of course. Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+ Home 16 11 50 44 11 14 3 1 5 8 2 0 6 11 .318 .400 .773 1.173 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321 132 198 Away 11 7 37 33 2 7 1 1 2 5 0 0 3 12 .212 .297 .485 .782 16 1 1 0 0 0 0 .263 58 106 Edited November 25, 2019 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I’m back for more offseason fun. What is the assumed timetable for wheeler? Some people are thinking before thanksgiving, or was that just wishful thinking? Also, mods, how does one go about changing their username, lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, HakunaMachado said: I’m back for more offseason fun. What is the assumed timetable for wheeler? Some people are thinking before thanksgiving, or was that just wishful thinking? Also, mods, how does one go about changing their username, lol? If you read any of these "insider" tweets it sounds like he's close to signing. So probably sometime in January. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: He's given up a scary amount of HR's. I don't think he would translate well going from NL to AL + GRF. You never know. We need to bring some starters in here though. We can't trot out the same old same old and injured arms only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: If you read any of these "insider" tweets it sounds like he's close to signing. So probably sometime in January. Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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