CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, wegner said: Are we better with a right handed hitting RF now? Does this take us out of the running for Catellanos? Personally, I'm good with spending the rest of the free agent $ on pitching now. Tony said Castellanos is 100% on the Sox radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 So, right now the Sox have TWO catchers from the last all star game on their roster at the same time. When has *that* ever happened? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Do we have to wait until Uncle Jerry stops hyperventilating before we sign another free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BFirebird Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Tony said Castellanos is 100% on the Sox radar. Interesting..... @Tony - how about SP on the radar? Wheeler has to be 1a no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Tony said Castellanos is 100% on the Sox radar. Wow, that would be a fun lineup to watch, especially considering adding Robert and Madrigal. Are the days of 7-9 in the lineup being near automatic outs coming to an end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Law seems very into it. Quote Enough of their prospects have become productive major leaguers that you can see a championship core forming, with more prospects either just arriving (Dylan Cease) or about to do so (Luis Robert), but it wasn't likely to be enough even in a division that's probably the least competitive one through five of any in baseball. Adding the best catcher on the market in Yasmani Grandal was probably the best move they could make short of landing one of the aces available in free agency - and that's not to say they couldn't do that too. ESPN + Edited November 21, 2019 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said: Probably the guy who complained about this signing because Grandal is a “cheater” LOL Nah Flavum is a true blue Sox fan through and through. One of the top posters here for many years. He just doesn't like cheaters. He isn't the vindictive silly guy who would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Why couldn't this team win in 2020 with a couple more signings? I think people overrate how far this team is away; they had absolute abortions at two positions that really drove down their win total last year. If you had average big leaguers at those spots, they're likely a 500 team. Astros, Yankees, Dodgers. That's why. Also add in Braves, Nationals, Rays, A's, BoSox to an extent, Cubs, etc. We may win. Hell sign a few more people in the offsesason, sign Madrigal and Robert to deals (or just bring them up and start their clock) and yes, in a perfect world we could win 85 games. I'm not here to win 85 games. I'm here to win World Series and that window begins in 2022. (2021 is an outside shot dependent on future trades, FA signings and progress of some of our young guys, mainly our arms - Kopech, Cease, Giolito, Dunning, etc.) I'd just rather spend money that makes sense for the 2022-2025 time frame. I'm okay with this signing, but i don't want to hear the Sox cry poor going into the 2021-2022 offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, wegner said: Wow, that would be a fun lineup to watch, especially considering adding Robert and Madrigal. Are the days of 7-9 in the lineup being near automatic outs coming to an end? A lineup with Castellanos would be nuts... 1. Robert RH 2. Madrigal RH 3. Moncada SWITCH 4. Jiminez RH 5. Abreu RH 6. Grandal SWITCH 7. Castellanos RH 8. Collins LH 9. Anderson RH That's actually not even bad balance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 White Sox now have 2 Position players in the Top 20 of Fangraphs 2019 WAR (Moncada & Grandal). https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0 Can we make it 2 SP as well to go with Giolito (Cole, Stras, Ryu, Wheeler all fit the bill)? https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BrianAnderson said: Astros, Yankees, Dodgers. That's why. Also add in Braves, Nationals, Rays, A's, BoSox to an extent, Cubs, etc. We may win. Hell sign a few more people in the offsesason, sign Madrigal and Robert to deals (or just bring them up and start their clock) and yes, in a perfect world we could win 85 games. I'm not here to win 85 games. I'm here to win World Series and that window begins in 2022. (2021 is an outside shot dependent on future trades, FA signings and progress of some of our young guys, mainly our arms - Kopech, Cease, Giolito, Dunning, etc.) I'd just rather spend money that makes sense for the 2022-2025 time frame. I'm okay with this signing, but i don't want to hear the Sox cry poor going into the 2021-2022 offseason. Win the Central and anything can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Also, I dare say I'm starting to come around on the idea that the Sox were actually being smart in the way they valued Machado, if they are going to actually use that money in a productive fashion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: A lineup with Castellanos would be nuts... 1. Robert RH 2. Madrigal RH 3. Moncada SWITCH 4. Jiminez RH 5. Abreu RH 6. Grandal SWITCH 7. Castellanos RH 8. Collins LH 9. Anderson RH That's actually not even bad balance. When's the last time a reigning batting champ batted 9th? I'm not being critical, I'm just saying WOW!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, mqr said: Win the Central and anything can happen. You have to start somewhere. It is pretty rare to jump out of nowhere, win the division, win the WS without some lumps. Cubs, Astros, even the Nationals all had some losing in the playoffs before they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, mqr said: Also, I dare say I'm starting to come around on the idea that the Sox were actually being smart in the way they valued Machado, if they are going to actually use that money in a productive fashion. IF, and it's a big IF Hahn assumed Moncada would blossom at 3B and they could get Grandal & Wheeler basically with that money he wins GM of the year, hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: Astros, Yankees, Dodgers. That's why. Also add in Braves, Nationals, Rays, A's, BoSox to an extent, Cubs, etc. We may win. Hell sign a few more people in the offsesason, sign Madrigal and Robert to deals (or just bring them up and start their clock) and yes, in a perfect world we could win 85 games. I'm not here to win 85 games. I'm here to win World Series and that window begins in 2022. (2021 is an outside shot dependent on future trades, FA signings and progress of some of our young guys, mainly our arms - Kopech, Cease, Giolito, Dunning, etc.) I'd just rather spend money that makes sense for the 2022-2025 time frame. I'm okay with this signing, but i don't want to hear the Sox cry poor going into the 2021-2022 offseason. 2021 is an outside shot? Come on man. This is just pure nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, mqr said: Win the Central and anything can happen. BA literally thinks that only a minute amount of teams who make the playoffs have a chance of actually winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I’m in the Eminor camp on this one. Prefer the big money be spent towards pitching and I sure hope this doesn’t prevent them from doing so... I don't think there are necessarily divided camps. I totally understood the importance of Grandal yet I posted scenarios with and without him because I always thought pitching should be priority one. But this is a great signing and there is still room for a guy like Wheeler and maybe a MIley. It might limit other position player signings however. Probably won't spend on a DH now and RF might not be a high priority either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: A lineup with Castellanos would be nuts... 1. Robert RH 2. Madrigal RH 3. Moncada SWITCH 4. Jiminez RH 5. Abreu RH 6. Grandal SWITCH 7. Castellanos RH 8. Collins LH 9. Anderson RH That's actually not even bad balance. Switch Anderson and Madrigal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Switch Anderson and Madrigal. I prefer the OBP of Madrigal and his ability to put the bat on the ball at #2. I think he is the ideal and prototypical #2 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This was a really nice Birthday present 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 First big signing of the year. Biggest free agent contract in franchise history. It will not last long in the record books for that title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, BFirebird said: Interesting..... @Tony - how about SP on the radar? Wheeler has to be 1a no? According to a NY guy , also a link posted since the Grandal signing yes he is . Go back a few pages . You'll find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Grandal's walks would have accounted for roughly 1/3 of the White Sox total walks last year. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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