FS: 40-Man Roster Decisions, Eligibility and The Rule 5 Draft Implications

[ChiSox59]

Just now, DirtySox said:

Interesting. I wouldn't have predicted that with how he was handled last season.

Same, definitely surprised me.  Makes little sense why you'd add him to 40 man now, but chose not to call him up in September.  

[Harold's Leg Lift]

Just now, DirtySox said:

How about disappointing?

That one is much more appropriate.  Failed works too.  

[TheTruth05]

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

Same, definitely surprised me.  Makes little sense why you'd add him to 40 man now, but chose not to call him up in September.  

Get that extra year of service.

[turnin' two]

1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

That one is much more appropriate.  Failed works too.  

You can be prominent and disappointing and a failure.  See:  Appel, Mark.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

42 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Future Sox reporting that Yermin Mercedes is expected to be in the names added to the 40 man today.

good.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

36 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Same, definitely surprised me.  Makes little sense why you'd add him to 40 man now, but chose not to call him up in September.  

Just because we make one dumb move shouldnt mean we should make a second.. Not bringing him up in September was dumb.  Not protecting him would be even more dumb.. Let's limit our "dumb" moves to one 

[RTC]

1 hour ago, cjgalloway said:

Just because we make one dumb move shouldnt mean we should make a second.. Not bringing him up in September was dumb.  Not protecting him would be even more dumb.. Let's limit our "dumb" moves to one 

White Sox Baseball: Less dumb than we used to be

(Brooks can thank me later)

[Sleepy Harold]

Here it is

[mqr]

What is a Matt Foster?

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

6 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

Here it is

I do not dislike any of those projections... So I am happy.  Does anyone have a list of who we didnt protect..., I know Alec is one.

Nevermind.  Also, Foster seems to be a strange keep?  I imagine he is one of the first to get cut when we start signing players?

Edited November 20, 2019 by cjgalloway

[Sleepy Harold]

1 minute ago, cjgalloway said:

I do not dislike any of those projections... So I am happy.  Does anyone have a list of who we didnt protect..., I know Alec is one

If you go back to the first page, the Future Sox article has a list there. 

[TheTruth05]

Alec is going to get picked up by the Dodgers and become pretty good again isn't he?

[mqr]

2 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said:

Alec is going to get picked up by the Dodgers and become pretty good again isn't he?

There is zero chance the Dodgers waste a 26 man roster spot on that significant a reclamation project.

[TheTruth05]

1 minute ago, mqr said:

There is zero chance the Dodgers waste a 26 man roster spot on that significant a reclamation project.

No doubt, it was tounge in cheek

[DirtySox]

 

[TheTruth05]

Yerminator fans feel vindicated today. Give the man a chance.

[mqr]

When is the tender deadline? Going all the way to 40 right now is curious. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by mqr

[ChiSox59]

10 minutes ago, mqr said:

When is the tender deadline? Going all the way to 40 right now is curious. 

December 2nd.

Sox probably figure it will be easier to slip guys currently on the 40 man through we they need to make space as opposed to right now when a bunch of teams have several openings.  And obviously if you don't put a guy like Foster on now, he is eligible for R5 draft.  Can always remove him later.  

Edited November 20, 2019 by ChiSox59

[mqr]

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

December 2nd.

Sox probably figure it will be easier to slip guys currently on the 40 man through we they need to make space as opposed to right now when a bunch of teams have several openings.  And obviously if you don't put a guy like Foster on now, he is eligible for R5 draft.  Can always remove him later.  

I'd think a guy like that has a better chance of not slipping through waivers than he does getting Rule 5'd no?

[Whisox05]

 

[ChiSox59]

Alec Hansen definitely most notable omission.  Other guys that have a shot a playing the big leagues, though certainly not impact talents, would be Forbes, Kubat, Puckett and Thompson.  Only guy I could see maybe taken in R5 draft out of this group is Thompson.  

[ChiSox59]

3 minutes ago, mqr said:

I'd think a guy like that has a better chance of not slipping through waivers than he does getting Rule 5'd no?

I would think so.  I think the trimming will be from the Palka, Zavala, Vieira, Medeiros, Fulmer and Covey group as opposed to anyone just added.  

[mqr]

2 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

Same, definitely surprised me.  Makes little sense why you'd add him to 40 man now, but chose not to call him up in September.  

Wanting to use him in a trade would be my guess. I don't believe they believe a lick of what they're saying about him being an actual catcher. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by mqr

[ChiSox59]

Just now, mqr said:

Wanting to use him in a trade would be my guess. I don't believe a lick of what they're saying about him being an actual catcher. 

I am pretty sure if the Sox had NOT put him on the 40 man today, but traded him between now and R5 draft, the acquiring team could add him to the 40 man roster (and therefore protect him from the R5 draft).  I am admittedly not 100% sure on that though.  

I think more likely the Sox look at him as a platoon DH option should FA options not come to fruition, and wanted to protect him just in case.  Hard to say tho - I felt the chances of Mercedes actually getting selected in R5 were pretty small. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

39 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said:

Alec is going to get picked up by the Dodgers and become pretty good again isn't he?

There's zero chance that any team that is event remotely average is going to stash a guy who couldn't throw a strike or repeat his delivery on the MLB roster for the entire season.

A team like Detroit is a risk to claim Hansen as they can afford his badness to be on the MLB roster if they still see a future there.