ChiSox59 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: All you really have to do is look around the league and realize there aren't many options. If no NL teams were that interested 2 years ago, they wouldn't be now. As badly as I would want him, I've been saying for months he's probably not opting out. I am completely fine with it. Didn't love the Martinez fit from day 1. While obviously I wouldn't have been mad if they signed him, I feel there are much better ways to build the team (with the assumption that Jose Abreu will be around). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: His salary drops $4.5M for 21-22. While $4.5M isn't a ton in baseball terms, that is almost a 20% decrease. As I said, he was never going to beat $23.75M in AAV in 2020. Sure but if teams didnt find him worth his salary this year, with basic aging regression he certainly wouldnt be worth his salary next year at 4.5 million less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: To be optimistic for a second, if Boston does trade him, they likely won’t trade him to the Yankees which eliminates a possible suitor I don’t buy the Yankees as being a serious suitor for him TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I am completely fine with it. Didn't love the Martinez fit from day 1. While obviously I wouldn't have been mad if they signed him, I feel there are much better ways to build the team (with the assumption that Jose Abreu will be around). The problem is if we miss on Grandal, there really aren’t any other high impact positional guys in free agency. Having JDM as an insurance policy was nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 dang, this stinks.. I really wanted him in our lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: The problem is if we miss on Grandal, there really aren’t any other high impact positional guys in free agency. Having JDM as an insurance policy was nice. Yep, definitely don't disagree with that. Makes not missing on Grandal pretty important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: He would be a year older. Hed be giving away the most valuable year of the contract, this year. If a team was not willing to beat the offer to capture this year, they will be even less willing to beat it without the youngest and projected best year of the deal. He also gets paid $4.4 million more in 2020 than in 2021 or 2022. If he has a big year again, 2 years and $40 million would be more money than he is owed. Plus there may be more suitors. Right now he is at White Sox maybe Texas. Next year it could be a few more. At any rate, no need to cry for him. He has all the money he will ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t buy the Yankees as being a serious suitor for him TBH. Obviously not suitors for him; unless they were trading stanton and eating 50% of the deal which would make no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I don't think they would, unless the Red Sox basically gave him away for salary relief. That's probably what will end up happening. They can't keep him, unless you think they're trading multiple of Betts/Price/Sale/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: So if a trade were to happen, it better happen soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: He also gets paid $4.4 million more in 2020 than in 2021 or 2022. If he has a big year again, 2 years and $40 million would be more money than he is owed. Plus there may be more suitors. Right now he is at White Sox maybe Texas. Next year it could be a few more. At any rate, no need to cry for him. He has all the money he will ever need. 4.4 million is like .5 WAR in these negotiations. For his age most models will show similar regression from this year to next to cancel out that value. I hear what you're saying but the later you get into your thirties the less likely a team is to invest in you. Given how long it took JD to get this contract signed In the first place i think it's safe to say the market isnt in JDs favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Mookie is probably gone now. David Price too, but who is going to take that contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: Mookie is probably gone now. David Price too, but who is going to take that contract? Rangers like Price apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: 4.4 million is like .5 WAR in these negotiations. For his age most models will show similar regression from this year to next to cancel out that value. I hear what you're saying but the later you get into your thirties the less likely a team is to invest in you. Given how long it took JD to get this contract signed In the first place i think it's safe to say the market isnt in JDs favor. It all comes down to which teams need a DH. If it’s Cleveland and Oakland, he has to live with what he has. The other thing to consider is it is possible the NL gets the DH in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Rangers like Price apparently He would be a fine gamble if Boston ate a decent amount. Guess we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said: Mookie is probably gone now. David Price too, but who is going to take that contract? And all their money woes might be BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: He would be a fine gamble if Boston ate a decent amount. Guess we will see. It's almost like large pitching contracts aren't that risky! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 This just in....The White Sox had a place reserved at the table but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It all comes down to which teams need a DH. If it’s Cleveland and Oakland, he has to live with what he has. The other thing to consider is it is possible the NL gets the DH in 2021. Good point; regarding DH. I think we're further away from that change than next CBA but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Now trade for Betts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So much for that idea with JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Good. Didn't want the White Sox touching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I'm okay with this because I'm convinced Jerry would bring Abreu back (one way or another) and having both Jose and JDM never made much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, RTC said: I'm okay with this because I'm convinced Jerry would bring Abreu back (one way or another) and having both Jose and JDM never made much sense. If Abreu stays at 1B, why doesn’t it make sense for a year or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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