fathom Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I wouldn't be so sure. I'd give it about a 10- 15% chance that Abreu isn't back next year, even with the QO. Only way he’s not on Sox next year is if he retires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, SoxAce said: That would require Ricky actually giving them the green light. I'm pretty sure he means watching them run around the bases after a Castellanos double. You always get the green light on a double . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, credezcrew24 said: In 209 PA on the south side his line is .235 .278 .383 .660 In 2019 over 26 PA his line looks a lot different .417 .462 .792 1.253 And remember a lot of those 209 AB's were against rebuild pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 JD Martinez is a better player than Castellanos at this very moment, but JD is 32 and Castellanos will only be 28 on Opening Day...so he might actually be a better fit for the Sox. Just something to keep in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: JD Martinez is a better player than Castellanos at this very moment, but JD is 32 and Castellanos will only be 28 on Opening Day...so he might actually be a better fit for the Sox. Just something to keep in mind. I would wager that over the next 4 seasons, Castellanous NEVER has one year better than JDM... They aren't even in the same stratousphere of players.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 can he bunt? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I’m not going to pretend I’ve watched much of Castellanos playing D, but he did drastically improve in most, if not all, metrics in RF from year 1 to year 2. Granted he was still poor in RF this past year, but is it not possible a guy his age continues to improve in his 3rd year at a new position? We don’t need him to be a good OF’er per say, he just can’t hurt the team in the field. DRS- 2018: -19, 2019: -9 UZR- 2018: -12.9, 2019: -5.2 Even just getting those 2 #’s to 0 and he’s probably a 3.5 WAR player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Well, he'd be a FA. You know what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: I would wager that over the next 4 seasons, Castellanous NEVER has one year better than JDM... They aren't even in the same stratousphere of players.. Getting out of that hitter’s hellhole known as Comerica Park should help his offensive stats significantly. We already saw that when he was with the Cubs. GRF is a hitter’s park too so I have no doubts he would thrive with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Perfect Vision said: Don't like this if true. Not because I wouldn't like Castellanos on the team, but because he should be far down the priority list of players they should be pursuing right now. If he’s a guy they like, they should most definitely pursue him right now. We can afford multiple impactful additions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Given the sparse OF options out there, I'd gladly take Castellanos at the 4 year/$56-58M Fangraphs and MLBTR are projecting, but I sure wouldn't throw $100M or the like at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, bighurt574 said: Given the sparse OF options out there, I'd gladly take Castellanos at the 4 year/$56-58M Fangraphs and MLBTR are projecting, but I sure wouldn't throw $100M or the like at him. If they sign Castellanos, I hope to god it's for DH and not RF. Edited November 6, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I’m not going to pretend I’ve watched much of Castellanos playing D, but he did drastically improve in most, if not all, metrics in RF from year 1 to year 2. Granted he was still poor in RF this past year, but is it not possible a guy his age continues to improve in his 3rd year at a new position? We don’t need him to be a good OF’er per say, he just can’t hurt the team in the field. DRS- 2018: -19, 2019: -9 UZR- 2018: -12.9, 2019: -5.2 Even just getting those 2 #’s to 0 and he’s probably a 3.5 WAR player. interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Fun fact....Among the hitter listed on MLBTR top 50 free agents, on 3 players have an OPS over .800 for their career at the White Sox ballpark. Donaldson, who has raked with an OPS over 1.100, Encarnacion, and Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Castellanos gets a big meh from me. If he gets cheap enough (2/$30M or 3/$45 type deal), he starts to make a little sense. But he's not a RF, and a career 112 wRC+ DH is pretty underwhelming, especially if you're paying him a lot. And then he hits with the wrong hand. Sox need good hitters, and Castellanos I guess fits the bill. I would need to reserve judgement to see how the rest of the roster shakes out if the Sox signed him. On paper, I think he's a pretty poor fit. He has a wRC+ of 126 over the past two years. If you believe that’s the level of hitter he truly is, then he’s a perfectly capable DH. Also, MLBTR rumors brought up that his defense while still not good in 2019 was significantly better than it was in 2018. If there’s room for growth, then maybe that changes the calculus a bit. Honestly, if his price is truly 4/$60M, I’m suddenly far more interested in him, but I’d still pursue Grandal & Wheeler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Castellanos is fine, as an overall hitter, but he has only been average vs. RH pitching, until last year. If they sign him, they still will need to find a LH bat. If he can really hold his own, in RF, then I'd like Grandal as the LH bat, at first base and DH, rotating with Abreu and splitting the catching with McCann, which has often been suggested here. Then go get some pitching. Edited November 6, 2019 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lillian said: Castellanos is fine, as an overall hitter, but he has only been average vs. RH pitching. If they sign him, they still will need to find a LH bat. If he can really hold his own, in RF, then I'd like Grandal as the LH bat, at first base, DH and catcher, which has often been suggested here. Then go get some pitching. Sign Grandal, Castellanos, & Wheeler. This lineup would be significantly better than last year: Anderson, SS Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B/DH Jimenez, LF Grandal, C/DH/1B# Castallanos, RF Robert, CF Collins, DH* / McCann, C Madrigal, 2B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sign Grandal, Castellanos, & Wheeler. This lineup would be significantly better than last year: Anderson, SS Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B/DH Jimenez, LF Grandal, C/DH/1B# Castallanos, RF Robert, CF Collins, DH* / McCann, C Madrigal, 2B Works for me. Sold!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sign Grandal, Castellanos, & Wheeler. This lineup would be significantly better than last year: Anderson, SS Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B/DH Jimenez, LF Grandal, C/DH/1B# Castallanos, RF Robert, CF Collins, DH* / McCann, C Madrigal, 2B I'd be pretty happy if they could pull that off. Solid moves across the board. Though, I'd flip Grandal with Abreu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I'd be pretty happy if they could pull that off. Solid moves across the board. Though, I'd flip Grandal with Abreu. Yeah, the order would need some tweaking, but that could be a seriously good lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I'd be pretty happy if they could pull that off. Solid moves across the board. Though, I'd flip Grandal with Abreu. I was thinking that I'd rather flip Abreu and Eloy. Putting the 2 LH hitters; Moncada and Grandal together, is not the optimum lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said: I think it had to do more with getting out of that giant fucking park + the trade. He OPS'd over 1000 with the Cubs. I don't think it is unrealistic at all to see him consistently in the lower 900's at GRF. Wishes he had $100 for every time he’s heard the same comment over the last three decades about potential hitters at GRF/US Cellular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sign Grandal, Castellanos, & Wheeler. This lineup would be significantly better than last year: Anderson, SS Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B/DH Jimenez, LF Grandal, C/DH/1B# Castallanos, RF Robert, CF Collins, DH* / McCann, C Madrigal, 2B Order aside that would be a very solid lineup. I'd still want them to add in a LH OF depth piece with some pop on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just now, caulfield12 said: Wishes he had $100 for every time he’s heard the same comment over the last three decades about potential hitters at GRF/US Cellular. Comerica is fucking terrible, especially for an alley to alley hitter like Castellanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Order aside that would be a very solid lineup. I'd still want them to add in a LH OF depth piece with some pop on top of that. The #4, #8 and #12 free agents on the market? Competing against at least 15-18 teams, overall? One would like to believe it’s possible, but Grandal goes elsewhere and we get our 4th-6th preferred pitcher is the likeliest possible scenario if they sign Castellanos at anything approaching $60-75 million. Edited November 6, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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