TheFutureIsNear Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 This is purely speculation on my part. I do not know if all/any of these players are actually available, the list was compiled by looking at teams that have a log jam/surplus at positions we could use. Also not claiming the Sox have the necessary pieces that make sense to make trade for any player. And obviously these players are all of varying degrees of interest. Yankees- Frazier, Bird, Tauchman Red Sox- Benintendi Astros- Reddick A’s- Canha, Olson Mariners- Santana, Haniger Rangers- Calhoun, Mazara Braves- Markakis (cheap club option) Mets- Cano (mets add a lot of $ + young talent), Dom Smith, Nimmo Phillies- Bruce, Franco, Haseley Cubs- Schwarber, Heyward, Happ Reds- Winker Brewers- Travis Shaw, Ben Gamel Pirates- Marte Cardinals- Jose Martinez, Wong Rockies- Daniel Murphy Dodgers- Pederson, Edwin Rios Padres- Franchy Cordero Post any players I forgot and/or trade proposals. We could use some new conversations aside from over analyzing the same 10 or so free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 For the right price I'd be interested in a handful of these names (Mazara, Haniger, Frazier, Nimmo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I put it in another thread, but Pirates’ Gregory Polanco. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 How about first listing trade assets that THIS org has that won't scupper this rebuild? I'm skeptical about the depth of this system, such that a trade may well kill whatever depth this org may have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said: How about first listing trade assets that THIS org has that won't scupper this rebuild? I'm skeptical about the depth of this system, such that a trade may well kill whatever depth this org may have. Collins steiver Micker Basabe Rutherford Walker Dunning Sheets Fulmer handful of low level guys that will have some interest Obviously nothing with a ton of value, but some sort of package of 2-3 could get most of that list in my opinion. A guy like Benintendi would obviously require us to take on bad contracts tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Dahl and Tapia from Rockies. Peralta - Dbacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Apparently, Lindor lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Collins/steiver/Micker/Basabe/Rutherford/Walker/Dunning/Sheets/Fulmer handful of low level guys that will have some interest Obviously nothing with a ton of value, but some sort of package of 2-3 could get most of that list in my opinion. A guy like Benintendi would obviously require us to take on bad contracts tho. So, from the SOX standpoint, 2-3 of these prospects kills any sort of depth, and makes it all but impossible to make a "finishing touch" trade later. [i.e. a Chapman to scrubs-type move to complete a playoff run.] From the standpoint of another team, they'd be looking at a "pile of mediocrity for your good player" type of trade. How does Theo sell a Schwarber for Dunning/Micker/Sheets deal to his fanbase, for example? I don't think I'm convinced that a "Buy" trade [at THIS point] makes sense for a shallow system that could be ranked in the ~20s, once Robert and Madrigal arrive. That said, if/when some of the injured or less-effective prospects get healthy and re-establish their prospect value [such as in midseason this year], a "Buy" trade could make more sense. At the same time, when a projected contender surprisingly falls out of contention, and has to SELL, keeping "the powder dry" for such an opportunity could bear fruit for the SOX, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: From the standpoint of another team, they'd be looking at a "pile of mediocrity for your good player" type of trade. How does Theo sell a Schwarber for Dunning/Micker/Sheets deal to his fanbase, for example? The only reasons that make sense for any team to go for the guys we have not named Robert/Vaughn/Madrigal is to clear payroll, bonus if there's someone being blocked by that player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Collins steiver Micker Basabe Rutherford Walker Dunning Sheets Fulmer Obviously nothing with a ton of value, but some sort of package of 2-3 could get most of that list in my opinion. A guy like Benintendi would obviously require us to take on bad contracts tho. Red Sox probably would not be interested in the White Sox backing up that garbage truck at Fenway and unloading it. We probably could get Benintendi for Vaughn if we took Eovaldi with him took over at least 1/3 or 1/2 of the amount of his remaining 3 year contract. A stiff price to pay but perhaps the right thing to do for both teams. That deal would have to be conditioned on an Eovaldi physical to make sure his arm does not require surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I like the idea of getting Trey Mancini for the Orioles. Hunter Renfroe from the Padres since he's got a big time bat, and is apparently a good defensive RF with a big arm. Edited November 11, 2019 by ChiliIrishHammock24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Balta1701 said: The only reasons that make sense for any team to go for the guys we have not named Robert/Vaughn/Madrigal is to clear payroll, bonus if there's someone being blocked by that player. This is a vast over simplification that is only considering top 100 status. There could be teams that are high on Stiever & Walker for example, whether Baseball America or Pipeline have them ranked as top 100 prospects. Also, the Dodgers nearly traded us two years of Pederson for a pair of interesting arms, neither of which were top 100 guys. Your view on prospect value is very much outdated, as even guys in the 101 to 200 range are commanding quite a bit of value today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, tray said: Red Sox probably would not be interested in the White Sox backing up that garbage truck at Fenway and unloading it. We probably could get Benintendi for Vaughn if we took Eovaldi with him took over at least 1/3 or 1/2 of the amount of his remaining 3 year contract. A stiff price to pay but perhaps the right thing to do for both teams. That deal would have to be conditioned on an Eovaldi physical to make sure his arm does not require surgery. That would be a horrible move. Three years of Benintendi coming of a fairly ordinary year is not worth a top 20 prospect plus taking on a albatross contract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Collins steiver Micker Basabe Rutherford Walker Dunning Sheets Fulmer handful of low level guys that will have some interest Obviously nothing with a ton of value, but some sort of package of 2-3 could get most of that list in my opinion. A guy like Benintendi would obviously require us to take on bad contracts tho. Guessing a team might find Rodon interesting enough as a return piece. Especially as part of a bundle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinsettle Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, tray said: Red Sox probably would not be interested in the White Sox backing up that garbage truck at Fenway and unloading it. We probably could get Benintendi for Vaughn if we took Eovaldi with him took over at least 1/3 or 1/2 of the amount of his remaining 3 year contract. A stiff price to pay but perhaps the right thing to do for both teams. That deal would have to be conditioned on an Eovaldi physical to make sure his arm does not require surgery. If we traded the best college hitter in years for Benintendi straight up we should be calling for hahns job. Horrible trade idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, tray said: Red Sox probably would not be interested in the White Sox backing up that garbage truck at Fenway and unloading it. We probably could get Benintendi for Vaughn if we took Eovaldi with him took over at least 1/3 or 1/2 of the amount of his remaining 3 year contract. A stiff price to pay but perhaps the right thing to do for both teams. That deal would have to be conditioned on an Eovaldi physical to make sure his arm does not require surgery. I doubt they will trade Benintendi because of Betts' status. But if trading Benintendi w an Eovaldi or Price attached gets them what they want payroll-wise, I am sure he can be had. But Vaughn or Madrigal would not do it. They got good production from their 2B they brought up mid-season and their highest rated MLB ready prospect is a IB in AAA. So it would probably take an MLB level OF in return. I would love to see Benintendi in our OF but I am not sure we have the outfield piece should Boston try and trade him. Now they may be enticed by a young SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Dahl and Tapia from Rockies. Peralta - Dbacks I think the Rox would listen on Jon Gray offers as well. They REALLY need to clean up payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I like the idea of getting Trey Mancini for the Orioles. Hunter Renfroe from the Padres since he's got a big time bat, and is apparently a good defensive RF with a big arm. I struggle to see the point in giving up trade assets to acquire another right handed corner bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: That would be a horrible move. Three years of Benintendi coming of a fairly ordinary year is not worth a top 20 prospect plus taking on a albatross contract Perhaps. Maybe the BoSox would take Collins or ReyLo and not require that the Sox take on money with one of their bloated player contracts. If trading away talent to get a decent RF is such an anathema then open the pocketbook and overpay for Castellanos, because that is what it will take to beat out the cubs and other teams to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, tray said: Perhaps. Maybe the BoSox would take Collins or ReyLo and not require that the Sox take on money with one of their bloated player contracts. If trading away talent to get a decent RF is such an anathema then open the pocketbook and overpay for Castellanos, because that is what it will take to beat out the cubs and other teams to get him. Any situation that involves overpaying for Castellanos should get a HARD PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 which means that acquiring a relatively young decent LH hitting RF than can play good D would be golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Designated Hitter for your 2020 Chicago White Sox, Marcus Semien! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Collins steiver Micker Basabe Rutherford Walker Dunning Sheets Fulmer handful of low level guys that will have some interest Obviously nothing with a ton of value, but some sort of package of 2-3 could get most of that list in my opinion. A guy like Benintendi would obviously require us to take on bad contracts tho. We have plenty of prospects that should interest other clubs, especially a guy like Stiever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 10 hours ago, SCCWS said: I doubt they will trade Benintendi because of Betts' status. But if trading Benintendi w an Eovaldi or Price attached gets them what they want payroll-wise, I am sure he can be had. But Vaughn or Madrigal would not do it. They got good production from their 2B they brought up mid-season and their highest rated MLB ready prospect is a IB in AAA. So it would probably take an MLB level OF in return. I would love to see Benintendi in our OF but I am not sure we have the outfield piece should Boston try and trade him. Now they may be enticed by a young SP. Boston is paying over 12 million in over cap tax penalties. They need to do something and are not in position to hold anyone up. They may be a good trade partner especially with a new GM. New guys seem more willing to trade players they didn't bring into the organization. David Price might be part of such a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Could someone make this this thread for pitchers as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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