Sleepy Harold Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Honestly, that move would make sense for both sides. Fulmer and Brinson both desperately need changes of scenery. Yeah for Carson's sake they should move him, see if he can find it somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 the chances of the Sox making a serious playoff push this year are pretty slim, get a 1 year stop gap who plays elite defense in rf and go hard after Betts in 2021? maybe put engel back out there, I saw someone make a good point about surrounding our pitching staff with solid D 1-9 which would take a lot of undue pressure off of them as they acclimate to the bigs, I'm on board with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Chisox378 said: No Dickerson, he has a career 620 k's to 168 bb. We surely dont need more strikeouts. Thats why I vouched for Murphy. Never ever look at career stats when talking about a player. If you are going to look at K's look at his K percent especially from more recent years . No Dickerson does not walkvery much but became a contact hitter a few years ago so he is not the same hitter he was earlier in his career. Just don't check stat lines. You have the internet so you can make informed decisions on players. All it takes is a little research. I don't think a single person has a problem with his K rate. The question with him is injuries and can he play right fielder having had a few throwing shoulder injuries over the years. His bat is really good.Try looking at career OPS+ and his stats for the last 2 years as a hitter since that's when he decided to cut down on his K's and make more contact. Edited November 19, 2019 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Right now, Fulmer is a much better pitcher than Brinson is a hitter. Brinson's problem is nothing that a change of scenery (which he has already had) will fix. Sox had a lot of players who hit like Brinson and they just went through multi-year grind with Leury and Engel to get them up to acceptable (barely) offensive standards. Don't need another one. Fulmer, on the other hand, has a discernible kernel of talent with his spin rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said: Lewis Brinson would be freeER, maybe we make a push for him? We already have a significantly better player named Adam Engel Edited November 19, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 14 hours ago, joesaiditstrue said: I would take a flyer on Mitch Hanigar, if hes healthy in 2020 he would be a pretty good option in RF, or am I way off base here Mariners won't be accepting any "take a flier" offers on Haniger. The guy is a year removed from being one of the most valuable OF in the game. Still controlled for there more seasons. A fluke injury last year isn't going to crater his value to nothing - the return to acquire Haniger would be painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Never ever look at career stats when talking about a player. If you are going to look at K's look at his K percent especially from more recent years . No Dickerson does not walkvery much but became a contact hitter a few years ago so he is not the same hitter he was earlier in his career. Just don't check stat lines. You have the internet so you can make informed decisions on players. All it takes is a little research. I don't think a single person has a problem with his K rate. The question with him is injuries and can he play right fielder having had a few throwing shoulder injuries over the years. His bat is really good.Try looking at career OPS+ and his stats for the last 2 years as a hitter since that's when he decided to cut down on his K's and make more contact. Ok, looking back at his stat line you convinced me he is a better hitter than I thought, still his k to bb is concerning throughout his whole career. I could say in this day and age he is a little better than average hitter. His 28 doubles in 279 plate appearances is impressive. He hits for a decent average. We have so many hitter like Dickerson in our lineup already, but I'm counting on our players to improve immensely on their k to bb rate. If Dickerson can play CF, you have convinced me he is worth the signing instead of my original thought of Billy Hamilton. Edited November 19, 2019 by Chisox378 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: Ok, looking back at his stat line you convinced me he is a better hitter than I thought, still his k to bb is concerning throughout his whole career. I could say in this day and age he is a little better than average hitter. His 28 doubles in 279 plate appearances is impressive. He hits for a decent average. We have so many hitter like Dickerson in our lineup already, but I'm counting on our players to improve immensely on their k to bb rate. If Dickerson can play CF, you have convinced me he is worth the signing instead of my original thought of Billy Hamilton. We literally have no hitters like Dickerson. And he cannot play CF. And we have a CF for the next 7 seasons. Where do you come up with this shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: We literally have no hitters like Dickerson. And he cannot play CF. And we have a CF for the next 7 seasons. Where do you come up with this shit? I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much. Edited November 19, 2019 by Chisox378 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much. You are the only person on the planet who thinks this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, southsideirish71 said: You are the only person on the planet who thinks this. I get it. Many fans like flash and HR's...but that to me is not what makes a good hitter. Hitters that can work counts, move runners over, get on base, make contact, and sacrifice their own at bats for the best of the team are the best hitters. The Astros hitters are a great example of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I get it. Many fans like flash and HR's...but that to me is not what makes a good hitter. Hitters that can work counts, move runners over, get on base, make contact, and sacrifice their own at bats for the best of the team are the best hitters. The Astros hitters are a great example of this. Because they're all cheaters. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much. lol...pfffft...ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much. Is this Greg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much. Good point. We also should have kept Moncada down for a couple more years because of his rawness and high strikeout rate. Same with Eloy. It's not like guys can get better while in the big leagues, so I don't know why we ever call these players up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I get it. Many fans like flash and HR's...but that to me is not what makes a good hitter. Hitters that can work counts, move runners over, get on base, make contact, and sacrifice their own at bats for the best of the team are the best hitters. The Astros hitters are a great example of this. Is that why nearly every team that was in the postseason was in the top ten in all of baseball in homers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Good point. We also should have kept Moncada down for a couple more years because of his rawness and high strikeout rate. Same with Eloy. It's not like guys can get better while in the big leagues, so I don't know why we ever call these players up. If we have better options and want to win games, which is what we should be trying to do, then yes, why call up raw players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: I get it. Many fans like flash and HR's...but that to me is not what makes a good hitter. Hitters that can work counts, move runners over, get on base, make contact, and sacrifice their own at bats for the best of the team are the best hitters. The Astros hitters are a great example of this. The Astros hit the 3rd most home runs in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 10:28 AM, steveno89 said: Why not just sign Edwin Encarnacion for just money to DH? I'm all for it. Will he come to Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Anyone for dominic Smith? Article on his year this year with limited playing time. Really doesn't have a spot with Mets. Still 24 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/dominic-smith-is-hitting-himself-out-of-a-pinch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, oldsox said: I'm all for it. Will he come to Chicago? Will Chicago offer him the most money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Really, when it comes to DH, they need someone who is a good platoon partner for Collins vs. LHP and can also fill in in case Collins sucks. I think Encarnacion is a good plan at DH. I do hope they give Collins a look though. He can fill in at 1B and emergency C as well. Edited November 19, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Really, when it comes to DH, they need someone who is a good platoon partner for Collins vs. LHP and can also fill in in case Collins sucks. I think Encarnacion is a good plan at DH. I do hope they give Collins a look though. He can fill in at 1B and emergency C as well. Encarnacion can find a starting job somewhere I'm sure. But I do agree for the most part. What about Howie Kendrick to sign as a platoon piece? Although I do think its possible he could find a starting gig on a rebuilding team too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Chisox378 said: I get it. Many fans like flash and HR's...but that to me is not what makes a good hitter. Hitters that can work counts, move runners over, get on base, make contact, and sacrifice their own at bats for the best of the team are the best hitters. The Astros hitters are a great example of this. Did you watch the Astro's this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: Did you watch the Astro's this year. Mostly in the playoffs, but looked at their team stat line and they drew alot of walks and their hitters worked pitchers hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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