Vote4Pedro Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Because why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, beckham15 said: Because why not I'd be pretty shocked if the Sox were serious about Rendon. He's a great player, but why move Moncada off of 3B? We need pitching first and foremost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 It's not even worth discussing until someone else reports ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I would like to state though that despite the many people against rendon because it moves moncada around again...I think getting Rendon would be so clearly a net positive that you go for it. He's so good. I just also get some Adrian Beltre "he'l be good forever" vibes from him. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: I would like to state though that despite the many people against rendon because it moves moncada around again...I think getting Rendon would be so clearly a net positive that you go for it. He's so good. I just also get some Adrian Beltre "he'l be good forever" vibes from him. And Moncada, who is younger and was better defensively this season, does not necessarily need to be the one to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I cant wait to hear random twitter inside stories on this one for months on end. Who's with me?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: I would like to state though that despite the many people against rendon because it moves moncada around again...I think getting Rendon would be so clearly a net positive that you go for it. He's so good. I just also get some Adrian Beltre "he'l be good forever" vibes from him. Love Rendon as a player, but he's not signing anywhere where he is not the unquestioned starting 3B day one. Also, he has already been offered 7/210-215 to remain with the Nationals. It would take far more to get him on the south side. Can't see us ponying up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think if you do something like this you trade Madrigal and move Yo back to 2B. I wouldn't stick him in RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: And Moncada, who is younger and was better defensively this season, does not necessarily need to be the one to move. Yeah, I also think the "he can't play second" stuff is overstated. If there's a position I think they can shift around weaknesses, it's 2b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: I would like to state though that despite the many people against rendon because it moves moncada around again...I think getting Rendon would be so clearly a net positive that you go for it. He's so good. I just also get some Adrian Beltre "he'l be good forever" vibes from him. I agree, he can platoon at DH when Madrigal needs a spot and would give you a lot of flexibility on the infield. Adding another big time bat is going to be crucial to this team contending this year. Both Madrigal and Robert will have their initial struggles. Rendon would help minimize the effect on the lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, steveno89 said: Love Rendon as a player, but he's not signing anywhere where he is not the unquestioned starting 3B day one. Also, he has already been offered 7/210-215 to remain with the Nationals. It would take far more to get him on the south side. Can't see us ponying up. I get this reaction, but I just don't like the idea that we judge moves as 'bad' just because the sox are unlikely to pursue them. The offseason has a long ways to go, I'll wait until january for realism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah, I also think the "he can't play second" stuff is overstated. If there's a position I think they can shift around weaknesses, it's 2b. Assume fantasyland and we sign Rendon, move Moncada back to 2B, where the heck does Madrigal play? Or would he just become trade bait in this situation? Rendon is getting at least $30 million AAV long term, plus we still badly need to add one premier free agent starting pitcher, another backend starter, RF, DH, pen arms. We have financial flexibility, but it would be a stretch to achieve all than and ink Rendon. Edited November 11, 2019 by steveno89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 It would be pretty typical to see Moncada moved to second and coincidentally see a drop in offensive production and everyone attributes it to the position change forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, steveno89 said: Assume fantasyland and we sign Rendon, move Moncada back to 2B, where the heck does Madrigal play? Or would he just become trade bait in this situation? Too many good players is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, steveno89 said: Assume fantasyland and we sign Rendon, move Moncada back to 2B, where the heck does Madrigal play? Or would he just become trade bait in this situation? I think the good thing about madrigal is he's absolutely a player you could play all over (though sub-optimal production) and just be deep, but also, yes I think trading him is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: It would be pretty typical to see Moncada moved to second and coincidentally see a drop in offensive production and everyone attributes it to the position change forever. Ha, this would be hilarious "you took a silver slugger third baseman and moved him to second? He doesn't know where the balls gonna go...discombobulated...guy can't play. Hahn sucks!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 If Moncada moves off of third, it won’t be to go back to second. He’d shift to the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I think moving Moncada again would be insanely dumb. But that’s just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I think if you do something like this you trade Madrigal and move Yo back to 2B. I wouldn't stick him in RF. 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah, I also think the "he can't play second" stuff is overstated. If there's a position I think they can shift around weaknesses, it's 2b. If we sign Rendon and move Moncada to 2B I'd obviously be happy since Rendon is elite, and I agree that Moncada is at least good enough to be a regular 2B. But I would rather see Moncada at 3B, Madrigal at 2B, Rendon at 1B, Abreu (eventually Vaughn) at DH, and still go after a Castellanos/Pederson type for RF. Of course, I highly doubt we even are serious about Rendon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: If we sign Rendon and move Moncada to 2B I'd obviously be happy since Rendon is elite, and I agree that Moncada is at least good enough to be a regular 2B. But I would rather see Moncada at 3B, Madrigal at 2B, Rendon at 1B, Abreu (eventually Vaughn) at DH, and still go after a Castellanos/Pederson type for RF. Of course, I highly doubt we even are serious about Rendon. No way you pony up for Rendon to stick him at 1B. He's a quality 3B. Rendon to the Sox is not happening, lets put that idea to bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: If we sign Rendon and move Moncada to 2B I'd obviously be happy since Rendon is elite, and I agree that Moncada is at least good enough to be a regular 2B. But I would rather see Moncada at 3B, Madrigal at 2B, Rendon at 1B, Abreu (eventually Vaughn) at DH, and still go after a Castellanos/Pederson type for RF. Of course, I highly doubt we even are serious about Rendon. Yeah that's interesting. Would be an actually good defensive infield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I think if you do something like this you trade Madrigal and move Yo back to 2B. I wouldn't stick him in RF. I like the way you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I think moving Moncada again would be insanely dumb. But that’s just my opinion. If that person that is taking over third is less good than Anthony Rendon I would tend to agree. But Anthony Rendon is really really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: No way you pony up for Rendon to stick him at 1B. He's a quality 3B. Rendon to the Sox is not happening, lets put that idea to bed I know, I said that at the end. But to your first point, while he is a quality 3B, Moncada is better (defensively) and it's likely to stay that way as Rendon ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: I know, I said that at the end. But to your first point, while he is a quality 3B, Moncada is better (defensively) and it's likely to stay that way as Rendon ages. You can always make that the long-term plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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