Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The phillies are in a worse position to win than the White Sox. I don't think wheeler was signing to hang out with bryce. Never said he was. You have very strange takes on a lot of posts. But if Harper was here and not there, the White Sox might look a bit better to players . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I'm trading Madrigal in this scenario for SP/RF and putting Yo at 2b. I wouldn't mess with Moncada's head by putting him at 2nd...a position he wasn't very good at defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Take this with a huge grain of salt... J. Michael was wrong about everything 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Never said he was. You have very strange takes on a lot of posts. But if Harper was here and not there, the White Sox might look a bit better to players . Yeah, and the sox would have 300 million dollars less to spend so... I'll take the extra 300 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 What star SP would Cishek even be talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What star SP would Cishek even be talking about? Unknown really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Never said he was. You have very strange takes on a lot of posts. But if Harper was here and not there, the White Sox might look a bit better to players . So what part of this scenario does Wheeler stop caring about his wifes family and staying out East? If playing with Harper doesnt motivate him to sign, what are you arguing? That if the sox overpaid harper, wheelers wife wouldn't matter anymore? Not sure how I have a strange take. You literally insinuated that, maybe, if the sox signed harper last year wheeler would have accepted the offer this year from the sox. Why are those two things at all related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What star SP would Cishek even be talking about? He was wrong about Wheeler, so why give him any credibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yeah, and the sox would have 300 million dollars less to spend so... I'll take the extra 300 I would rather they spend it on good players than bad, and Harper would have improved revenues, and would have instantly taken the team out of irrelevance both nationally and in Chicago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Dick Allen said: I would rather they spend it on good players than bad, and Harper would have improved revenues, and would have instantly taken the team out of irrelevance both nationally and in Chicago. You know what helps take a team out of irrelevance? Winning. Do you know what hampers winning? Giving 300 million to a guy who isnt worth 300 million when you have a payroll ceiling that isnt at the luxury tax #. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: He was wrong about Wheeler, so why give him any credibility I mean, no one was wrong about wheeler. Sox made the highest offer, so insiders that said that would happen were absolutely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: So what part of this scenario does Wheeler stop caring about his wifes family and staying out East? If playing with Harper doesnt motivate him to sign, what are you arguing? That if the sox overpaid harper, wheelers wife wouldn't matter anymore? Not sure how I have a strange take. You literally insinuated that, maybe, if the sox signed harper last year wheeler would have accepted the offer this year from the sox. Why are those two things at all related? You are exhausting. The better the team the better the chance something like this doesn't happen. When did it happen to the Cubs or the Yankees or Red Sox? Machado supposedly wanted no part of the west coast due to family, but $50 million extra changed his mind . If the White Sox were a perennial contender and not a team whose best season was 78 wins the last several years things may be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemg311 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 So lets say Rendon is cheaper than Cole or Strasburg... Would it be crazy to sign him, and then use Moncada as the centerpiece to acquire either a great young RF, or Starting pitcher? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: You know what helps take a team out of irrelevance? Winning. Do you know what hampers winning? Giving 300 million to a guy who isnt worth 300 million when you have a payroll ceiling that isnt at the luxury tax #. So spend it like they have been spending it. Really has worked out well. They did have that big 78 win season a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: You are exhausting. The better the team the better the chance something like this doesn't happen. When did it happen to the Cubs or the Yankees or Red Sox? Machado supposedly wanted no part of the west coast due to family, but $50 million extra changed his mind . If the White Sox were a perennial contender and not a team whose best season was 78 wins the last several years things may be different. And how does 3 WAR Bryce harper take the 72 win white sox and turn them into a perennial contender in one year? If a player cares enough about a teams future and winning when signing, I think he'd do more research than looking at a press clipping for a Harper signing. The sox are in a better position to win over the next several years than the Phillies. Exhausting? You're still here pseudo b****ing about missing out on bryce Harper or manny machado. Its unbelievable really. Now you've taken it so far to insinuate maybe the sox lost out on wheeler because they didnt sign one of those guys. Its hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Can we stop yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, joemg311 said: So lets say Rendon is cheaper than Cole or Strasburg... Would it be crazy to sign him, and then use Moncada as the centerpiece to acquire either a great young RF, or Starting pitcher? Moncada’s trade value is among the highest in baseball. You’d need BOTH a great RF and SP to move him. It would probably never work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: And how does 3 WAR Bryce harper take the 72 win white sox and turn them into a perennial contender in one year? If a player cares enough about a teams future and winning when signing, I think he'd do more research than looking at a press clipping for a Harper signing. The sox are in a better position to win over the next several years than the Phillies. Exhausting? You're still here pseudo b****ing about missing out on bryce Harper or manny machado. Its unbelievable really. Now you've taken it so far to insinuate maybe the sox lost out on wheeler because they didnt sign one of those guys. Its hilarious. 4.6 f WAR. Not 3. Plus he excites the fanbase. Generates more interest. It goes on and on. He was actually perfect for the White Sox situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, joemg311 said: So lets say Rendon is cheaper than Cole or Strasburg... Would it be crazy to sign him, and then use Moncada as the centerpiece to acquire either a great young RF, or Starting pitcher? ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanJoeCrede Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, joemg311 said: So lets say Rendon is cheaper than Cole or Strasburg... Would it be crazy to sign him, and then use Moncada as the centerpiece to acquire either a great young RF, or Starting pitcher? It is interesting to me that out of the thousands of posts I've read in multiple threads here, I'm pretty sure this is the first one I've seen where someone suggested trading any of the young MLB position player core. Collins, yes. A couple of the young pitchers, yes. But I dont remember seeing any Moncada, Anderson, Jimenez trade suggestions. Maybe one with Anderson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHahn Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yoan was bad at second. I'm not sure if Sox fans remember how bad he was over there; I don't think the scenario should be Yoan going back to second in any scenario. But just because Yoan was bad at second doesn't mean he can't improve. He has the tools to be an average to above average 2nd baseman. I'd rather have Madrigal there. So no one is talking about moving Madrigal to ss and TA to RF?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 My pipe dream was Rendon for 3b, Yoan to the OF, Madrigal to 2b. If Eloy is considered an outfielder defensively I don't think Yoan would have any problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, NotHahn said: But just because Yoan was bad at second doesn't mean he can't improve. He has the tools to be an average to above average 2nd baseman. I'd rather have Madrigal there. So no one is talking about moving Madrigal to ss and TA to RF?? TA also to C. Split time at SS, OF, DH and C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Fake Steve Cishek.... New Peavy44? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: TA also to C. Split time at SS, OF, DH and C. Get it right, TA is the primary catcher while splitting time at 1B when Grandal plays CF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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