turnin' two Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Pine Tar, Domestic Abuse and Sign Stealing: The Houston Astros Story Coming soon to a theater near you. Another example of why guys get so much better when they go to the Astros. Maybe it isn't that they have a great analytics department. Maybe they really cheat, a lot. Edited November 14, 2019 by turnin' two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 They are absolutely fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) WOW the evidence just keeps piling on. There is a megathread on /r/baseball thats growing exponentially with video evidence. Its going to be interesting how MLB handles disciplining the players who took part in this. Bregman is one of the biggest offenders. Its going to be comical if he wins the MVP award. His reputation is completely ruined and will be for the rest of his career. Edited November 14, 2019 by reiks12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I hope they give the 2017 trophy to the dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, reiks12 said: WOW the evidence just keeps piling on. There is a megathread on /r/baseball thats growing exponentially with video evidence. Its going to be interesting how MLB handles disciplining the players who took part in this. Bregman is one of the biggest offenders. Its going to be comical if he wins the MVP award. His reputation is completely ruined and will be for the rest of his career. The sheer amount of evidence coming out is comical. BREGMAN'S FIRST CAREER HR was because of this. Draft picks are not enough. Hinch for one needs to be banned or suspended for a year at minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I wonder if Fiers thought that this wasn't going to be a big deal, or if he wanted to make this a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Kyyle23 said: I wonder if Fiers thought that this wasn't going to be a big deal, or if he wanted to make this a big deal. IMO he's clearly holding a grudge and wanted this to be a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: IMO he's clearly holding a grudge and wanted this to be a big deal. Putting his name on it seems like quite an FU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I wonder if Fiers thought that this wasn't going to be a big deal, or if he wanted to make this a big deal. I mean, he clearly knew this was going to be a huge deal. Aside from the Astros getting destroyed from the top down, I'm really curious to see what happens to Cora and Beltran. It would be quite the LolMetsing if Beltran ends up suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 It still boggles my mind how they decided to use a system like this. Its so easy looking back now and looking for it. Tonight I am going to watch the game following the Farquhar one and see how we put our signs down and if things changed. If no ill laugh at how bad our coaches are/were. Im also interested in rewatching Gios domination from earlier this year. The Astros got crossed up somewhere there too. Will be interesting to pick it apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 19 hours ago, turnin' two said: Pine Tar, Domestic Abuse and Sign Stealing: The Houston Astros Story Coming soon to a theater near you. Another example of why guys get so much better when they go to the Astros. Maybe it isn't that they have a great analytics department. Maybe they really cheat, a lot. Oh the increase in spin rate is almost undoubtedly tied to some form of cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I wonder if Fiers thought that this wasn't going to be a big deal, or if he wanted to make this a big deal. He wanted this to be a big deal, for sure. I also want to add that while Fiers is taking all the heat here, there were other players who confirmed this but didn't put their name on it. Fiers gave no fucks and I respect that. Transparency isn't a big part of clubhouse culture; which is why they got away with this for multiple years despite players leaving. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I hope MLB brings the hammer down HARD. Talking about something like wiping out their entire 2020 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: IMO he's clearly holding a grudge and wanted this to be a big deal. A grudge? Why portray him that way? Maybe he just felt the cheating was wrong and had gone on too long and he realized no one else was going to speak up so he took the bullet to put a stop to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Grab your popcorn folks, its going to get much much worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, reiks12 said: It still boggles my mind how they decided to use a system like this. Its so easy looking back now and looking for it. Tonight I am going to watch the game following the Farquhar one and see how we put our signs down and if things changed. If no ill laugh at how bad our coaches are/were. Im also interested in rewatching Gios domination from earlier this year. The Astros got crossed up somewhere there too. Will be interesting to pick it apart. The Sox were one of the few times that noticed and brought attention to it. Not sure how a sox fan can find a way to spin this negatively about Sox coaching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, reiks12 said: It still boggles my mind how they decided to use a system like this. Its so easy looking back now and looking for it. Tonight I am going to watch the game following the Farquhar one and see how we put our signs down and if things changed. If no ill laugh at how bad our coaches are/were. Im also interested in rewatching Gios domination from earlier this year. The Astros got crossed up somewhere there too. Will be interesting to pick it apart. Pretty sure it was the last time they faced each other that season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Fiers and McCann were also teammates in Det. I am HIV positive that Fiers told McCann about Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Not everyone is a self centered ass hat. Zero reason to think Fiers reported this for any other reason than he stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Not everyone is a self centered ass hat. Zero reason to think Fiers reported this for any other reason than he stated. I think he probably did it to clean up the game a bit also, but I'm sure that line at Minute Maid park made it pretty easy for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Fiers and McCann were also teammates in Det. I am HIV positive that Fiers told McCann about Houston. Sox may have reported their suspicion as well; can not confirm that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Sox may have reported their suspicion as well; can not confirm that though. We know BoSox, NYY, Cleveland are all confirmed to have reported it since 2017. I saw some memo or post that there have been multiple teams reporting it to MLB. This would explain the Yankees doing all types of sign sequences against HOU even with nobody on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) https://youtu.be/8hUbEo2Cfh4 Nice premonition. Yanks knew. You don't go through all that because you're a sore loser, which is essentially what Hinch called them. Edited November 14, 2019 by BackDoorBreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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