teorey23 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Absolutely nothing is happening right now, someone, anyone bring us rumors. This HOF (Konerko) talk and Astros cheating news is old news. Anybody got anything?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, teorey23 said: Absolutely nothing is happening right now, someone, anyone bring us rumors. This HOF (Konerko) talk and Astros cheating news is old news. Anybody got anything?? It's November 18th so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On December 6th of 2006 we may acquire Gavin Floyd from the Phillies for Freddy Garcia and a player to be named later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I’m convinced that either we will be underwhelmed by the White Sox moves (Encarnacion, Puig, Calhoun and or Keuchel) or we will be blown away by moves or signings that no one saw coming (big trades/big FA signing or both). There will be no middle ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 hours ago, hi8is said: On December 6th of 2006 we may acquire Gavin Floyd from the Phillies for Freddy Garcia and a player to be named later. You guys remember that poster from a year or so ago that was posting as if he was still in 2006 or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 hours ago, chetkincaid said: I’m convinced that either we will be underwhelmed by the White Sox moves (Encarnacion, Puig, Calhoun and or Keuchel) or we will be blown away by moves or signings that no one saw coming (big trades/big FA signing or both). There will be no middle ground. I think they will end up w a budget of $125-120 Mil. That to me( 50% increase) will be middle-ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 8 hours ago, teorey23 said: Absolutely nothing is happening right now, someone, anyone bring us rumors. This HOF (Konerko) talk and Astros cheating news is old news. Anybody got anything?? excuse me, theyve been renamed: the houston asterisks thank you 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 hours ago, chetkincaid said: I’m convinced that either we will be underwhelmed by the White Sox moves (Encarnacion, Puig, Calhoun and or Keuchel) or we will be blown away by moves or signings that no one saw coming (big trades/big FA signing or both). There will be no middle ground. I think the first scenario you describe is the middle ground. Completely underwhelmed would be an offseason like last where the biggest signing is a 2 year $18M deal and few trades for shitty vets on expiring 1 year deals. There isn't much "middle ground" between the two scenarios you describe, unless you're talking something like Cole + Rendon + Wheeer + Castellanos, which obviously is complete fantasyland and never going to happen, because no team in MLB could pull that offseason off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Two weeks from this upcoming Saturday is when the stove will start to bubble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 If the Pirates are serious about trading Josh Bell I’m going all in. Anyone not named Robert, Madrigal, Yoan, TA, Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Cease would be on the table. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/mlbtr-poll-josh-bells-future.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, teorey23 said: If the Pirates are serious about trading Josh Bell I’m going all in. Anyone not named Robert, Madrigal, Yoan, TA, Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Cease would be on the table. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/mlbtr-poll-josh-bells-future.html That's a name I'd consider moving one of those guys that aren't Robert, Eloy, Yoan, Gio for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, teorey23 said: If the Pirates are serious about trading Josh Bell I’m going all in. Anyone not named Robert, Madrigal, Yoan, TA, Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Cease would be on the table. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/mlbtr-poll-josh-bells-future.html I love Josh Bell....but he’s nothing special. His defense is Abreu-esque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I love Josh Bell....but he’s nothing special. His defense is Abreu-esque Hes actually even worse defensively. Hes a great case in point for baseball caring a lot less about defense than 1st base WAR does. Bell was a 2.5 WAR player. If he was made available, his package would equal that of a 4-5 WAR talent not A 2.5 WAR talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, fathom said: I love Josh Bell....but he’s nothing special. His defense is Abreu-esque Nearly forgot how crucial a defensive first baseman is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Hes actually even worse defensively. Hes a great case in point for baseball caring a lot less about defense than 1st base WAR does. Bell was a 2.5 WAR player. If he was made available, his package would equal that of a 4-5 WAR talent not A 2.5 WAR talent. Bell (26) - .277 / .367 / .569 / wRC+ 135 Abreu (32) - .284 / .330 / .503 / wRC + 117 We need a DH let Bell or Abreu focus on one or the other but Bell would be a massive offensive upgrade at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Just my opinion, but I think the two pitchers that the Sox will get will end up being Wheeler and Keuchel. I don't like Keuchel but as a #4-5 he's ok. Edited November 19, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Bell is a better than above average hitter and is only 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Just my opinion, but I think the two pitchers that the Sox will get will end up being Wheeler and Keuchel. I don't like Keuchel but as a #4-5 he's ok. The Sox are not going to sign 2 pitchers to multi year deals. So unless Keuchel takes a 1 year deal, that’s not happening. Wheeler + Wood or Smyly makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: The Sox are not going to sign 2 pitchers to multi year deals. So unless Keuchel takes a 1 year deal, that’s not happening. Wheeler + Wood or Smyly makes more sense. I think Keuchel is going to get a 2 year deal and I think they'd be ok with that. It frees up Lopez/Dunning as trade chips to fill RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I think Keuchel is going to get a 2 year deal and I think they'd be ok with that. It frees up Lopez/Dunning as trade chips to fill RF. Those are not particularly valuable trade chips. I literally don't know who you're thinking about with those, Reddick with the Astros paying half? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Those are not particularly valuable trade chips. I literally don't know who you're thinking about with those, Reddick with the Astros paying half? Despite Lopez's crappy year, he still had 2.3 fWAR last year. If someone believes they can get more out of him. Dunning I could see being worse than that, but I still think that Lopez holds more value than you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Despite Lopez's crappy year, he still had 2.3 fWAR last year. If someone believes they can get more out of him. Dunning I could see being worse than that, but I still think that Lopez holds more value than you think. He should have some value but not enough to get anyone really of use. Seriously, attach a name that you think you could get with those 2? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Those are not particularly valuable trade chips. I literally don't know who you're thinking about with those, Reddick with the Astros paying half? What? Lopez is a 2 win starter with tons of untapped potential and four years of team control. Plenty of teams would have interest in him. To say a worthless player like Reddick who is under control for only one more season is the best we could get (even with some pay subsidy) is quite frankly a stupid take. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: What? Lopez is a 2 win starter with tons of untapped potential and four years of team control. Plenty of teams would have interest in him. To say a worthless player like Reddick who is under control for only one more season is the best we could get (even with some pay subsidy) is quite frankly a stupid take. +100. Pretty sure all 29 clubs would have interest in Lopez if Sox were looking to trade him. He's been a top 15 pitcher in the AL both of the last two seasons per fWAR. Sox fans wildly undervalue him because he's been wildly inconsistent, and that for sure limits his value. But he's still a rock solid back of the rotation pitcher, with upper middle rotation upside, under control for 4 seasons - that has value. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: What? Lopez is a 2 win starter with tons of untapped potential and four years of team control. Plenty of teams would have interest in him. To say a worthless player like Reddick who is under control for only one more season is the best we could get (even with some pay subsidy) is quite frankly a stupid take. He's not worthless, he's worth more than a Mazara or a Polanco, but not a whole lot more than that. Seriously, what exciting player that can actually start are people thinking they'd get for him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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