SonofaRoache Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: This board is becoming fucking toxic. We're all supposed to be having fun here and we're all cannibalizing each other. I feel like nobody can even make a post anymore on any forum without being attacked. Those that feel optimistic get attacked, those that feel pessimistic get attacked, those that are neutral get attacked. All have valid points. Let's stop fucking eating each other and have fun. This is supposed to be fun. It's really not anymore. I feel like I'm on a political board, that's how bad it is here. Everyone is divided into cliques, and they spew vitriol at anyone who disagrees. I used to really enjoy posting here and I don't anymore. Should this have been in all CAPS? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: No but I don't see why the Mets would give up Nimmo without either Madrigal or Vaughn coming back from us, and Lopez and Dunning should be looked at as having very little value if you're trying to acquire a legit player. He's a first round talent who put together a nearly all star level 2018 season and who has 3 years of control remaining. Even if there's a roster crunch, you can always find room to play outfielders if you have to (See: the Dodgers). There is zero reason for them to trade him for scraps. I agree there is zero reason for them to trade him for scraps, and I know what he brings to the table - I have been one of the biggest proponents of acquiring him. Honestly, I think a Lopez for Nimmo isn't outrageous. 4 years of control vs 3. Inconsistency versus injury concerns. Both have good pedigrees. I honestly don't even know if I love it for the Sox as its selling low on Lopez, but seems close to fair. Lopez is not scraps, and is considerably more valuable than you're giving him credit for. I also don't think you'd need to give up a top 30 prospect in the game to acquire Nimmo. Madrigal/Vaughn + Lopez + Dunning could get you pretty much anything you want outside of a group of elite players, and Nimmo ain't in that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I never got invited into any cliques. This sucks! If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. That's....that's illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I’d like to suggest locking this thread. Any rumors that surface can go in the specific thread for that player. Anybody agree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I’d like to suggest locking this thread. Any rumors that surface can go in the specific thread for that player. Anybody agree? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I’d like to suggest locking this thread. Any rumors that surface can go in the specific thread for that player. Anybody agree? I'd be fine locking this thread to specific tweets and rumors... Not our random chatting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: I'd be fine locking this thread to specific tweets and rumors... Not our random chatting.... This wasn't a tweet or rumor. That's a paddlin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: This wasn't a tweet or rumor. That's a paddlin' Touche... touche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said: If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. I'm in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, TaylorStSox said: If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. Time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Everyone needs to be more civil here, myself included. Poop. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, TaylorStSox said: If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. Will there be cake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, TaylorStSox said: If you want to be part of my "I still like the White Sox and don't think Rick Hahn is the Anti-Christ" clique, you're welcome to join. It's just me. Having a meeting on Thursday. My "I still like the White Sox but Rick Hahn really is the Anti-Christ" clique will be meeting across the hall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Will there be cake Punch and pie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: My "I still like the White Sox but Rick Hahn really is the Anti-Christ" clique will be meeting across the hall. Is this where we sit at a table and pat ourselves on the back for being at the table? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Orlando said: Not a huge fan of most of Joel Sherman's ideas. Dom Smith? Homer Bailey? Yuck Agreed, listened to this and was repulsed by some of the suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) What do you guys believe is a fair enough punishment? First 3 draft picks in next 2 or 3 drafts? More? Less? Edit: damn, wrong thread. Edited November 20, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Agreed, listened to this and was repulsed by some of the suggestions. A lot of out-of-town ignorance there, but I agree with Sherman’s overall theme of trying to get deeper. It’s time to at least crack 81-81 and be positioned for sustained playoff appearances in 2021-25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: What do you guys believe is a fair enough punishment? First 3 draft picks in next 2 or 3 drafts? More? Less? Depending on investigation results, some version of a "Show-cause" penalty for the leadership. I don't know how to punish the players but there should be something. Fines to the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Depending on investigation results, some version of a "Show-cause" penalty for the leadership. I don't know how to punish the players but there should be something. Fines to the players? Why wouldn’t you just suspend the players? Other forms of cheating warrant suspension, why would this be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why wouldn’t you just suspend the players? Other forms of cheating warrant suspension, why would this be any different? Yeah that could work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: What do you guys believe is a fair enough punishment? First 3 draft picks in next 2 or 3 drafts? More? Less? I’d say that’s a good starting point, but also the forfeiture of international bonus pool and suspensions and/or bannings. They really have to make an example of these guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: I’d like to suggest locking this thread. Any rumors that surface can go in the specific thread for that player. Anybody agree? I love the Sox so much it sucks sometimes. I have faith in Hahn, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been awful at his job overall. I just hope he's learned from past mistakes and will continue to get better. That includes convincing Kenny and JR to spend money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I love the Sox so much it sucks sometimes. I have faith in Hahn, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been awful at his job overall. I just hope he's learned from past mistakes and will continue to get better. That includes convincing Kenny and JR to spend money. I’m with ya. Simply just gotta open the pocketbook and “augment” the roster with a few elite talents FA over the next 15 months and they could really build something. Hard to argue with the “ill believe it when I see it crowd” though, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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