Chisox378 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Ozuna hit 241 last year at stlouis with over 110 ks.i know 29 hrs but we need a lefty bat and hes right.idk why they do that if it's TRUE.makes no sense If we are clever and wise we could find an Ozuna in our minor league systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Guys again, he’s hit righties better than lefties over the past few years. Still brings balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Someone explain why fans are not excited about this. If defense is an issue then why do so many want Castellanos? I looked up Ozunas numbers and he looks better than almost all the other names people have been suggesting. Nick Castellanos career WAR according to BaseballReference is 7.1. Ozuna hit 37 homers and an OPS above .900 just a few years ago. He is only 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: 3/60M is perfectly fine but anything over $18M is crazy? I don’t follow. The post said anything Under 60...so yeah I still probably left a vague 6/7 mil gap, didn’t put that much thought into it obviously. 3/51 as the max I’m perfectly fine with is a more coherent way to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, JuliusO1274 said: Someone explain why fans are not excited about this. If defense is an issue then why do so many want Castellanos? I looked up Ozunas numbers and he looks better than almost all the other names people have been suggesting. Nick Castellanos career WAR according to BaseballReference is 7.1. Ozuna hit 37 homers and an OPS above .900 just a few years ago. He is only 28. If we're picking between Ozuna and Castellanos and are going to have poor D in RF, I prefer Castellanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Does the team that signs Ozuna have to provide a Draft pick as partial compensation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Ozuna hit 241 last year at stlouis with over 110 ks.i know 29 hrs but we need a lefty bat and hes right.idk why they do that if it's TRUE.makes no sense 110K's isn't that much in todays game. Moncada had over 150K's last year and he was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Castellanos a better hitter than Ozuna but not by much. Ozuna a better fielder but not by much. In this case we have to go with the better clubhouse presence, the player that can add chemistry and love to this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Orlando said: Except the report wasn't that Ozuna had signed with the White Sox, but that he's going to on Monday. Interesting worded tweet here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) Maybe the new hitting coach might specifically want him and endorse him... or this is a complete load of horse shit. Edited December 7, 2019 by hi8is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Ozuna won a gold glove in the outfield in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: If we're picking between Ozuna and Castellanos and are going to have poor D in RF, I prefer Castellanos. Castellanos career offensive numbers are barely better but Ozunas defensive numbers are much better than Castellanos. 2 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: Castellanos a better hitter than Ozuna but not by much. Ozuna a better fielder but not by much. In this case we have to go with the better clubhouse presence, the player that can add chemistry and love to this team. BaseballReference has Ozuna's career defensive WAR at 1.1, Castellanos is at -10.2. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, Chisox378 said: Ozuna won a gold glove in the outfield in 2017. He is brutal now. One thing though is the Sox hitting coach was his hitting coach his breakout season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: The post said anything Under 60...so yeah I still probably left a vague 6/7 mil gap, didn’t put that much thought into it obviously. 3/51 as the max I’m perfectly fine with is a more coherent way to put it. Yah, I don’t want Ozuna. I could live with 3/50 or under tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, ScooterMcGee said: Grand at short and Anderson catcher. We all know TA is the real catcher on this team Xactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: Castellanos a better hitter than Ozuna but not by much. Ozuna a better fielder but not by much. In this case we have to go with the better clubhouse presence, the player that can add chemistry and love to this team. Castellanos is a better hitter than Ozuna... also essentially opposites, Ozuna hits righties well, Castellanos hits lefties better than righties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsak31 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Not sure why so many people have a negative reaction to a possible Ozuna signing. I would be excited to add another professional bat with 25+ homers to the lineup and this would be a huge upgrade over last year. He’s still pretty young, and I like the potential with the hitting coach reunion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 ozuna is an above average hitter and average-ish defender (better than castellanos) and also ran a .240 babip and an 11% walk rate last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNamesRod Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 If this is true, not sure whether to be excited because the Sox won’t be stuck with Calhoun or disappointed because I really want castellanos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) What is your choice??? A) Marcell Ozuna > Avisail Garcia B) Marcell Ozuna = Avisail Garcia C) Marcell Ozuna < Avisail Garcia Edited December 7, 2019 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: He is brutal now. One thing though is the Sox hitting coach was his hitting coach his breakout season. What are you basing brutal off of? Because the #’s don’t back you up. Now I’m honestly not the biggest fan of defensive stats so I’m open to evidence. Did you watch him play extensively? I just feel like he had a very public blunder in the playoffs and now has a bad reputation. OR defensive stats aren’t reliable and shouldn’t be used in further discussions. I truly don’t care either way, but there needs to be a line drawn to have an honest discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 According to Speigle, Bruce's White Sox source says the report isn't true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: What are you basing brutal off of? Because the #’s don’t back you up. Now I’m honestly not the biggest fan of defensive stats so I’m open to evidence. Did you watch him play extensively? I just feel like he had a very public blunder in the playoffs and now has a bad reputation. OR defensive stats aren’t reliable and shouldn’t be used in further discussions. I truly don’t care either way, but there needs to be a line drawn to have an honest discussion. MlB Network showed him make about 10 plays like that and he can't throw at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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