Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, KopechThrowsHeat said: Ok, that’s some serious ? right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Orlando said: I tried and he usually always replies, he did not reply to this. Being tight lipped it seems Yep I’m sure he would have said one way or another if he was told he could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1203824288379392001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: https://mobile.twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1203824288379392001 Translates to: Hector Gomez trusts in his colleague’s [Frank Castillo’s] report. Edited December 9, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Just to recap: Morosi: “ Sox are awaiting a decision from Castellanos and Ozuna” Levine: “has not signed with the White Sox” Heyman: “ no deal is imminent” All of these imply the Sox and Ozuna have been talking. Frank: “ traveling to the US to sign with the Sox” Hector: “he’s traveling to the US tonight”, “I trust my colleagues report” I believe a deal has been agreed to in principal and will be signed soon. I truly believe the Sox are scared of backlash if a deal falls apart. They aren’t counting their eggs before the hatch. Edited December 9, 2019 by Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: Also I dont think there is any chance they are signing him as a primary DH. He's not even that good of a hitter. If they were going to trade Vaughn I'd rather them try to get JDM for DH. Ozuna was a top 25 hitter in all of baseball last year based on xWOBA. I know people don’t think he’s that good of a hitter based on his OPS / wRC+ the last two years, but I personally put a ton of faith in the Statcast metrics and think he’s a guy who blow up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KopechThrowsHeat Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Would love to know if someone could get Gomez to confirm if he asked Ozuna about the Sox. he follows me so im able to dm him but i did that this morning and got a reply out of him.. dont want to be a bother and lose that follow haaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ozuna was a top 25 hitter in all of baseball last year based on xWOBA. I know people don’t think he’s that good of a hitter based on his OPS / wRC+ the last two years, but I personally put a ton of faith in the Statcast metrics and think he’s a guy who blow up next year. He had one of the highest hard hit rates last year... https://www.mlb.com/news/marcell-ozuna-is-one-of-the-best-free-agent-hitters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hector appears to be a nice dude.Hewouldn't throw his colleague under the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: Just to recap: Morosi: “ Sox are awaiting a decision from Castellanos and Ozuna” Levine: “has not signed with the White Sox” Heyman: “ no deal is imminent” All of these imply the Sox and Ozuna have been talking. Frank: “ traveling to the US to sign with the Sox” Hector: “he’s traveling to the US tonight”, “I trust my colleagues report” I believe a deal has been agreed to in principal and will be signed soon. I truly believe the Sox are scared of backlash if a deal falls apart. They aren’t counting their eggs before the hatch. If only they would’ve taken that approach with Wheeler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Orlando said: Just to recap: Morosi: “ Sox are awaiting a decision from Castellanos and Ozuna” Levine: “has not signed with the White Sox” Heyman: “ no deal is imminent” All of these imply the Sox and Ozuna have been talking. Frank: “ traveling to the US to sign with the Sox” Hector: “he’s traveling to the US tonight”, “I trust my colleagues report” I believe a deal has been agreed to in principal and will be signed soon. I truly believe the Sox are scared of backlash if a deal falls apart. They aren’t counting their eggs before the hatch. Could be a "handshake" deal. We all remember Torii Hunter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We’ll find out tomorrow or in the next couple days one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: But real talk, how in the world could they get by in RF with what they have? What we got out of RF last year was the worst producing in baseball by wide margin. If people don’t like Ozuna that’s totally fine, but we’d defiantly need to make a big addition to solve RF. It’s as big of as issue as our pitching needs. Because you can have a hole in the lineup and still be okay; and our hole won't be on defense. You can't have a hole in the rotation. And yes it doesn't preclude a starter...but this org. has a history over the last 20 years of being a starter short when in contention (2005 obviously excepted) I really don't want the Sox to wed themselves to a flawed player like Ozuna; there may be someone they can grab in July on a salary dump. As for the pen, those names you listed: they all had career years last year. And none are of the stud variety to pull you out of jams. Just sayin... Edited December 9, 2019 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 this is such a meh signing after grandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ozuna was a top 25 hitter in all of baseball last year based on xWOBA. I know people don’t think he’s that good of a hitter based on his OPS / wRC+ the last two years, but I personally put a ton of faith in the Statcast metrics and think he’s a guy who blow up next year. 22 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: He had one of the highest hard hit rates last year... https://www.mlb.com/news/marcell-ozuna-is-one-of-the-best-free-agent-hitters I read something that he start getting shifted against from 3 or 4% to 12 or 13% over the last two years. Which could explain why his peripherals have remained the same but his numbers have gone down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The guy has nearly 4000 PAs. The production is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: this is such a meh signing after grandal Disagree. Every option available for RF is flawed in some way. Adding Ozuna's bat to the lineup is a massive plus. Sure his defense is absolutely suspect out there (and he's not my top choice to put in RF) but if it prevents me from watching the Palka's, Cordell's, and Tilson's of the world - I can be happy with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: If only they would’ve taken that approach with Wheeler... After watching everything play out unless the Sox offered $130 mil I don’t think Wheeler was ever going to come here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Disagree. Every option available for RF is flawed in some way. Adding Ozuna's bat to the lineup is a massive plus. Sure his defense is absolutely suspect out there (and he's not my top choice to put in RF) but if it prevents me from watching the Palka's, Cordell's, and Tilson's of the world - I can be happy with it. Yup! Just a few years ago in MIA Ozuna put up an amazing hitting season. This guy would be a major boom for us in our line up compared to the past x amount of years. We will have a very scary line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 48 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: this is such a meh signing after grandal I disagree. Ozuna at the RATE could be a beast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Yup! Just a few years ago in MIA Ozuna put up an amazing hitting season. This guy would be a major boom for us in our line up compared to the past x amount of years. We will have a very scary line up. No resting against this lineup. Opposing pitcher can be on cruise control then the roof caves in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I disagree. Ozuna at the RATE could be a beast. I'm not saying this to be snarky at you in particular, or personally, but just a general question to anyone; has playing at USCF/GRF ever actually boosted a free agent or trade's power numbers? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, nickofypres said: I'm not saying this to be snarky at you in particular, or personally, but just a general question to anyone; has playing at USCF/GRF ever actually boosted a free agent or trade's power numbers? Sure, Mike Sweeney and Miguel Cabrera 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maxjusttyped Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ozuna was a top 25 hitter in all of baseball last year based on xWOBA. I know people don’t think he’s that good of a hitter based on his OPS / wRC+ the last two years, but I personally put a ton of faith in the Statcast metrics and think he’s a guy who blow up next year. I was shocked looking at Ozuna's statcast metrics from last season. Obviously every team in baseball is aware of these numbers and most factor them into long-term projections, but if he actually hit to the level xWOBA says he deserved Ozuna would probably be in the ~25M AAV range. Seems like there's still upside in his bat. My opinion on him as a hitter definitely went up after seeing those. Marcel Ozuna last year exit velocity: 93rd percent tile xWOBA: 92nd percent tile xBA: 86th percent tile sprint speed: 63rd percent tile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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