bmags Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: As noted previously, Pederson at least gives you positional flexibility to stick him in CF preventing (hopefully) more Engel appearances. I think getting pederson assures more appearances for Engel against LHP tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Reddick sucks...but at $8-9 million, who knows between him and Calhoun who’s the better value. Of course, in that case of a subsidy from Houston, we’re going to have to surrenders some second/third tier prospects like Burdi, Fulmer and Hansen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I think getting pederson assures more appearances for Engel against LHP tbh. As 26th man, he better improve his “steal on demand” in late innings capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: As 26th man, he better improve his “steal on demand” in late innings capability. Who needs to steal when you can bunt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: Who needs to steal when you can bunt? Successfully? Well, it’s unlikely to improve with Vizquel gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, bmags said: If we get wheeler and push into a good bullpen, I would be okay with Reddick (again, apologies to @caulfield12) This would be to push into a big signing of Springer/Betts next year. I am attracted to adding his 10% walk rate/12%k rate to our lineup, though for some reason I expect that k rate to go up.......... It's not plan A, obviously. His BB rate dropped to 6.5% last year, which is 1.5 points below his career rate. He’s posted two straight years of OBP’s around .320. His power is pretty bad for a corner OF. His defense is now average to slightly below. I’d much rather give Calhoun $8M than go with Reddick. Hell, I’d rather go with Souza. Signing a 33 year old with a one win ceiling makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Reddick sucks...but at $8-9 million, who knows between him and Calhoun who’s the better value. Of course, in that case of a subsidy from Houston, we’re going to have to surrenders some second/third tier prospects like Burdi, Fulmer and Hansen. Lol...no we wouldn’t. The Astros would love to get rid of Reddick and would basically take nothing and eat some salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, bmags said: I think getting pederson assures more appearances for Engel against LHP tbh. Or you get a right-handed corner bat to pair him with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Or you get a right-handed corner bat to pair him with. I'm probably alone in thinking engel is actually worthwhile in this role. I do think as a platoon he'd be more than adequate and the defense is worthwhile. I think sox should see what Kendrick is looking for this offseason. Gets us a great veteran, great bat, can get us to Madrigal, and he has played a small amount of outfield, otherwise can be shifted around our dh/1b/2b positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: I'm probably alone in thinking engel is actually worthwhile in this role. I do think as a platoon he'd be more than adequate and the defense is worthwhile. I think sox should see what Kendrick is looking for this offseason. Gets us a great veteran, great bat, can get us to Madrigal, and he has played a small amount of outfield, otherwise can be shifted around our dh/1b/2b positions. I'm also on the Kendrick train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, bmags said: I'm probably alone in thinking engel is actually worthwhile in this role. I do think as a platoon he'd be more than adequate and the defense is worthwhile. I think sox should see what Kendrick is looking for this offseason. Gets us a great veteran, great bat, can get us to Madrigal, and he has played a small amount of outfield, otherwise can be shifted around our dh/1b/2b positions. Engel is definitely quite useful on a 26 man roster IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: His BB rate dropped to 6.5% last year, which is 1.5 points below his career rate. He’s posted two straight years of OBP’s around .320. His power is pretty bad for a corner OF. His defense is now average to slightly below. I’d much rather give Calhoun $8M than go with Reddick. Hell, I’d rather go with Souza. Signing a 33 year old with a one win ceiling makes no sense to me. All valid. I just think it's worth exploring supplementing the offense with additional contact and seeing if sequencing improves. I'd prefer quite a few but if Reddick could come with additional benefit to sox I'd look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I was on the Astros reddit last night and there was an article or Tweet or something about them looking at James McCann. Seth Beer is probably a big overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said: I was on the Astros reddit last night and there was an article or Tweet or something about them looking at James McCann. Seth Beer is probably a big overpay. Seth Beer is also not a part of the organization anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Seth Beer is also not a part of the organization anymore. Ha, oh yeah. Thanks Greinke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I was on the Astros reddit last night and there was an article or Tweet or something about them looking at James McCann. Seth Beer is probably a big overpay. That would be a great trade for the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Either way I guess they were looking at him so take that for whatever it's worth. There's still quite a few teams that need catching. I wouldn't mind trading him if we can get back something nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: Either way I guess they were looking at him so take that for whatever it's worth. There's still quite a few teams that need catching. I wouldn't mind trading him if we can get back something nice. The catching situation around the league is pretty dire. On one hand I like what James brings to the team and obviously we have the McCann/Giolito bromance, but if some team is willing to pay up prospects wise, I don't think I could resist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, bmags said: I'm probably alone in thinking engel is actually worthwhile in this role. I do think as a platoon he'd be more than adequate and the defense is worthwhile. I think sox should see what Kendrick is looking for this offseason. Gets us a great veteran, great bat, can get us to Madrigal, and he has played a small amount of outfield, otherwise can be shifted around our dh/1b/2b positions. You are not alone on Engel. I think he is a very worthwhile bench piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: I was on the Astros reddit last night and there was an article or Tweet or something about them looking at James McCann. Seth Beer is probably a big overpay. Beer is not on the Astros anymore... He was in the Greinke deal. . We will get a 45 FV prospect for McCann.. Don't get your hopes up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 21 hours ago, cjgalloway said: Beer is not on the Astros anymore... He was in the Greinke deal. . We will get a 45 FV prospect for McCann.. Don't get your hopes up I think McCann's trade value will be determined in part by supply and demand. McCann is an under 30 yr.old major league catcher that can hit for average, decent power, play decent defense, and was selected to the All Star team last season. My glass is more than half fill on McCann's trade value. I am hoping for the gaddamn moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, tray said: I think McCann's trade value will be determined in part by supply and demand. McCann is an under 30 yr.old major league catcher that can hit for average, decent power, play decent defense, and was selected to the All Star team last season. My glass is more than half fill on McCann's trade value. I am hoping for the gaddamn moon. McCann has plenty of value to the WS. Any trade acceptable to our FO should be an overpay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 11:50 AM, poppysox said: You are not alone on Engel. I think he is a very worthwhile bench piece. As do I. I would not think it unreasonable to see a bench next year of Yolmer, Leury, McCann, Collins and Engel (26th man). That's an excellent bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: As do I. I would not think it unreasonable to see a bench next year of Yolmer, Leury, McCann, Collins and Engel (26th man). That's an excellent bench Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 RF is the final piece. However, the Sox are nowhere near the final piece. Add 2 starters, 2 relievers, and then they'll be close to the final piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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