Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If it wasn't for the gopher ball issue/PTGTRW shit, I'd prefer Bumgarner over Wheeler, mostly because of his left-handedness. Bum struck out 200 guys last year, so it looks like he still has it for the most part. If the ball is de-juiced and the HRs become flyouts, then what happens to Bumgarner's performance? He strikes me as the next King Felix debacle.. Signs big contract and due to all of his innings at such a young age compltely implodes.. He would make me insanely nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I am thinking this Phillies stuff broke today because they knew they were out on Hamels. If so, they have some money to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, cjgalloway said: He strikes me as the next King Felix debacle.. Signs big contract and due to all of his innings at such a young age compltely implodes.. He would make me insanely nervous. I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Wheeler or bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's been said that Gio and Lopez were hurt near the top of the list by poor pitch framing which is on McCann and Castillo. That's why I see no need for McCann to be Gio's personal catcher unless he strictly prefers it. But I'm sure he knows the numbers on being hurt by pitching framing and will be open to having Grandal catch him. I think Gio and McCann are on the same wavelength. McCann puts down the sign and Gio throws the ball. Gio has confidence in how McCann calls the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 who knows what's going on now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: who knows what's going on now Wow, you don't say... the Phillies are in on "everyone" again. And no one knows. Edited December 4, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: who knows what's going on now I assume that suggests one, or the other, regarding Wheeler and Strasburg, not both. That is unless Ray is right about lots of bluster. Edited December 4, 2019 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: who knows what's going on now Good. Hopefully this moves them off of Wheeler, leaving it to the Sox and Reds for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If you look closely, one of the tattoos says “Sign Wheeler Today” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Bumgarner now expected to get $100 mil +? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: Bumgarner now expected to get $100 mil +? HARD pass on Bumgarner at over $100 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Sockin said: HARD pass on Bumgarner at over $100 mil. Hard pass on Bumgarner over $50 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, raBBit said: Hard pass on Bumgarner over $50 mil. Gun to head, do you think the Sox will get Wheeler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Gun to head, do you think the Sox will get Wheeler? Yep! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: Bumgarner now expected to get $100 mil +? That’s disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: No, he doesn't pitch in the most pitcher friendly park and probably division in baseball. Bum gave up 30 HRs, evenly split at 15/15. If you put him here he would have been destroyed. Guess we're lucky that last year isn't next year. He's a great pitcher and still relatively young and I have always believed his arm would bounce back after all those post season innings and the dirt bike accident and last year it did. I think the 2nd year back from all that will be a lot more productive. You don't . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, raBBit said: Hard pass on Bumgarner over $50 mil. This is exactly how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Gun to head, do you think the Sox will get Wheeler? They have just as good as chance as anyone. Will the Reds allow themselves to get beat by the White Sox on Grandal AND Wheeler? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, raBBit said: They have just as good as chance as anyone. Will the Reds allow themselves to get beat by the White Sox on Grandal AND Wheeler? Yep! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, bmags said: OTOH sox could use some good intensity in the club house, and I've never heard people didn't like bumgarner on their team. Yes he is fiercely competitive and would offer a wealth of knowledge to the Sox young pitchers. No pitcher likes HR's being hit off them and he shows it more by getting angry with the hitter if he perceives you watched it too much ,but I'd imagine he's just taking out the anger at himself on the hitter. I highly doubt he would clash with Anderson or Grandal especially when they pimp a HR that wins him and the team some games . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hard pass on Madison Bumgarner, period. He's a jackass that yells into the sky every time an opposing player shows any semblance of emotion on the field. Yea, good luck with him and Tim Anderson on the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 At those number for pitching, beef up the lineup in RF and DH and pray for a miracle from Lopez, Kopech, Cease. The pitching market is just absurd at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, raBBit said: They have just as good as chance as anyone. Will the Reds allow themselves to get beat by the White Sox on Grandal AND Wheeler? If the Reds do get desperate, I wonder if Wheeler would still pick the Sox if the Reds had a slightly higher offer (key word being slightly). If the Sox offer 5 years $105M and the Reds offer 5 years $110M, I still think he might pick the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, raBBit said: They have just as good as chance as anyone. Will the Reds allow themselves to get beat by the White Sox on Grandal AND Wheeler? Thanks for the response. If the money is equal, I don’t see why Wheeler would pick the Reds over the Sox. The Sox are in a much easier division and I’d have to think that Chicago is a more attractive destination than Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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