fathom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just passing this along https://mobile.twitter.com/HotStoveintel/status/1202030722623647744 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Just passing this along https://mobile.twitter.com/HotStoveintel/status/1202030722623647744 There is no way the Sox don't have a 100m on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, shipps said: Ah so that’s why people love Wheeler, the WAR. I honestly spent a lot of time away from baseball the past couple years as a man scorned by the Sox FO so I wasn’t really familiar with him and by the traditional stats he doesn’t jump out that much. I would also keep in mind the Mets had some pretty trash defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Speaking of, whatever happened to Ranger/Rongey? We scare him off? Rongey is in st Louis doing radio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: There is no way the Sox don't have a 100m on the table. Why, if we base it on the Machado negotiations last year? Or 100% believe that blowing everyone away early like Grandal is the new S.O.P.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 White Sox hoping Yonder Alonso and Jon Jay will help recruit Zack Wheeler to the South Side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Just passing this along https://mobile.twitter.com/HotStoveintel/status/1202030722623647744 The idea of “fallback option” is too old fashioned for me and I don’t think teams think that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: There is no way the Sox don't have a 100m on the table. Completely believable that the Sox are trying to find a way to get him at 4 years with 5 being an option for the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 It only takes ONE team moving to 6 (guaranteed or "reasonable" incentive to guarantee it) and the White Sox would be out of it (based on past evidence)...unless they're completely changing their philosophy of FA pitching contracts for the first time in recent memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 years seem to much for any team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Steve Stone must have insider info that the “pitching on the way” is actually Ivan Nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: There is no way the Sox don't have a 100m on the table. I still think there’s a small chance that our 5 year $90M offer is the highest and his agent is leaking the $100M offer to get us to raise ours. Like I said, a small chance, but it’s possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: His floor was always around 5/100. I'm not sure why people are so shocked he's at that right now. He's put up 9 WAR the last 2 years. No not even close to $100M if you remember the Fangraphs ranking of FA's about a month ago. Scroll down to #9. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-top-50-free-agents/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) This is scary.....it's not the $22 million per year but the NUMBER of years? So the Sox are offering 4/$88 or even 5/$110 but won't do the 6th year? Is someone out there really willing to something like 6/$125? Edited December 4, 2019 by Wisebri224 update messed up link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, shago said: White Sox hoping Yonder Alonso and Jon Jay will help recruit Zack Wheeler to the South Side This actually isnt a joke: I have been noticing Zack Wheeler's brother has been on twitter interacting a little bit with White Sox fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Wisebri224 said: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s not the 22 a year. It’s the amount of years</p>— Steve Stone (@stevestone) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevestone/status/1202047878434308097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> This is scary.....it's not the $22 million per year but the NUMBER of years? So the Sox are offering 4/$88 or even 5/$110 but won't do the 6th year? Is someone out there really willing to something like 6/$125? Olney speculated earlier that he might be holding out for a 6th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Wheeler is a solid 2. That's what the Sox need. There really is no fall-back option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: This actually isnt a joke: I have been noticing Zack Wheeler's brother has been on twitter interacting a little bit with White Sox fans. Zach Wheelers brother to the Whitesox confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Completely believable that the Sox are trying to find a way to get him at 4 years with 5 being an option for the team. I don't buy it for a second. There is too much smoke that we are knee deep in this thing. He is the only top tier pitcher we are even linked to. We are all in on this one boys, and if there is talk of a 6th year, we are offering 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Why, if we base it on the Machado negotiations last year? Or 100% believe that blowing everyone away early like Grandal is the new S.O.P.? Well if we are basing things on last year there would be no Grandal. I am choosing to read in between the 5000 lines that are out there. Especially after hearing some of our major competition hasn't made an offer and the Yanks are moving on to bigger things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: No not even close to $100M if you remember the Fangraphs ranking of FA's about a month ago. Scroll down to #9. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-top-50-free-agents/ You are basing your claim off 1 FG prediction which has been very wrong in the past and present. It has been reported for months he was going to be around 5/100 by multiple outlets and writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 ??? Get Ready 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I don't buy it for a second. There is too much smoke that we are knee deep in this thing. He is the only top tier pitcher we are even linked to. We are all in on this one boys, and if there is talk of a 6th year, we are offering 5. Based on everything that I have ever known as a Sox fan the sox have always been extremely leery of long term pitching contracts. With Wheelers past health and not being a true ace, it stands to reason the Sox won't all of a sudden change who they are for Wheeler. Years was a major issue last year. Edited December 4, 2019 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: Based on everything that I have ever known as Sox fan the sox have always been extremely leery of long term pitching contracts. With Wheelers past health and not being a true ace, it stands to reason the Sox won't all of a sudden change who they are for Wheeler. Years was a major issue last year. We aren't talking about a 7 year mega deal. 5 and 110 isn't that big of a deal in 2019. They had to have known that Wheeler would want 5 years and 100 million. So why even bother if you won't go there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, teorey23 said: ??? Get Ready The Teorey kiss of death 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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