Orlando Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Sox are willing to spend. This was not a failure. They learned from last year. Wheeler is an idiot for leaving money on the table. That tweet from Rosenthal was enough to make me a believer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, bmags said: If you are willing to spend 25 mill/yr on a 4 win pitcher...why not spend an additional 10 mil per year and get a 9 win one. Maybe missing out really does open up the door again, we can only hope i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 wish the phillies would stop blowing smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Wheeler was the guy. He was the only realistic shot at TOR performance that didn’t require a $160M+ contract. The other “fish in the sea” are either substantially worse or substantially more expensive. I don’t think the abject despair some are feeling is overblown if you look at the context of the market. The only way to get the pitching they need now is via trade, which would pull from a talented bun already thin system, thus hurting the teams chances, and all, again, for the sake of saving money. The team is simply not operating at the same level as the rest of the MLB. If this is how they are going to act, only blind luck will ever bring a championship He's not a TOR pitcher though. He's good, but he's no ace. I think you guys are way too emotional. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Feel free to delete the last 10 pages of overreaction now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Unfucking real. I take back everything I said. Is it really more in real dollars or performance based options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Give Strasburg $200M over 6 years. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, TaylorStSox said: Ok, Jack. Huh? Impossible to blame the front office if they offered the most money. This has to be very demoralizing to Hahn and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Unfucking real. I take back everything I said. maybe the brother in law thing would have worked here? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Wheeler was the guy. He was the only realistic shot at TOR performance that didn’t require a $160M+ contract. The other “fish in the sea” are either substantially worse or substantially more expensive. I don’t think the abject despair some are feeling is overblown if you look at the context of the market. The only way to get the pitching they need now is via trade, which would pull from a talented bun already thin system, thus hurting the teams chances, and all, again, for the sake of saving money. The team is simply not operating at the same level as the rest of the MLB. If this is how they are going to act, only blind luck will ever bring a championship They had the highest offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: WOW. Stop the b****ing, fellas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5/120 is alot. Get Ryu for 3/60 if you can. They have to act fast in terms of FA or trade to thwart the rising anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, southsideirish71 said: Is it really more in real dollars or performance based options. If that was ANYONE but Rosenthal I would say BS. Since it's Kenny, it's safe to say it's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Actually I'm heartened they had the highest offer. Maybe it's not so crazy that they look at Strasburg, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 wow... the one fucking time we don't sign the relatives, family, best friends, uncles, imaginary friends and all that, of the player we want to sign and it actually would have made a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, TaylorStSox said: He's not a TOR pitcher though. He's good, but he's no ace. I think you guys are way too emotional. When they missed on Manny last year, I felt like someone punched me in the gut. This year with Wheeler, it’s nothing like that. Hopefully they get creative with this money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Get mad JerBear and just go get Cole or Stras..... Or/And get tve most criminally underrated pitcher on the market, Hyun Jin Ryu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Our offer for Machado was "more" as well. Was it more guaranteed money though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think even if we went 5/$125M it may not have been enough. Close to home, staying in NL, with a division he's familiar with. I don't fault them for losing this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Huh? Impossible to blame the front office if they offered the most money. This has to be very demoralizing to Hahn and Co. Take a walk or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 nuh-uh man, no way phillies can afford more players (phillies sign castellanos from sox) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The other fish in the sea is true. Sorry. Go back 2-3 years and tell me if you thought you'd be heart broken about not signing Zack wheeler to a $24mm/yr contract? There will be other SP that come along. Just like Giolito sprouted up and did well, there will be others. There will also be small market teams that are willing to trade Archers and Coles. Everything will be fine. Breathe and just enjoy a team that's finally turning the corner and on it's way to 81 wins. Have fun with it. There will be ups and (many) downs this year as these 22 & 23 year old kids learn the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I will apologize if the "more money" in the tweet was actual real money and not fake not guarenteed money, again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 But is Rosenthal commenting on actual guaranteed money or did we pull another Machado fiasco with bonus' and other escalating clasuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: If you are willing to spend 25 mill/yr on a 4 win pitcher...why not spend an additional 10 mil per year and get a 9 win one. Cole and Strasburg will both look like significantly better deals on a $/WAR basis than Wheeler does. Targeting one of them should be a no brainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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