Jack Parkman Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Huh? They have no MLB ready LHSP. You'd have to think that they're going to want one. I'd understand why they wouldn't, but to me it seems like they're the team that would care about handedness in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Both. If they trade for Bundy, that would mean a couple of things: 1a. Their top SP target is either Bumgarner or Keuchel. OR 1b. They hate the SP market completely and would rather trade for upgrades there. 2. Lopez, Dunning or both are on the block How would everyone feel if the upgrades this winter were: SP-Bundy, Keuchel RF-Mancini C- Grandal ? If all it takes is Sheets, Rutherford, and Flores to get Bundy and Mancini, I would do that in a heartbeat. I don’t care that much about Bundy, but Mancini would be a fantastic acquisition for RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Lillian said: I can't imagine that the O's would give up Mancini, with 3 years of control, for just Rutherford, Sheets and Flores, let alone throw in Bundy. If they would do that deal, I'm pretty sure that Hahn would take it, in a heart beat. I don't care if Mancini bats RH. He hits RH pitching very well. Seems like Flores may have a inkling he's at least being dangled if not involved in a pending trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: If all it takes is Sheets, Rutherford, and Flores to get Bundy and Mancini, I would do that in a heartbeat. I don’t care that much about Bundy, but Mancini would be a fantastic acquisition for RF. He's bad defensively. You can get that out of Castellanos for just money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: He's bad defensively. You can get that out of Castellanos for just money. If those guys were all it took, we'd be paying Mancini something like $22 million over the next 3 years compared to what, $50 million over 4 years for Castellanos, and getting a 5th starter candidate out of it? So we'd effectively be turning Sheets, Rutherford, and Flores into $20+ million in savings and getting that 5th starter covered for $5 million? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: Both. If they trade for Bundy, that would mean a couple of things: 1a. Their top SP target is either Bumgarner or Keuchel. OR 1b. They hate the SP market completely and would rather trade for upgrades there. 2. Lopez, Dunning or both are on the block How would everyone feel if the upgrades this winter were: SP-Bundy, Keuchel RF-Mancini C- Grandal ? no happy. Hate both SP additions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Fairly lukewarm on this if Sox are ainvolved. If the price is really just Sheets, it'd be whatever to me. There are definitely worse options than Bundy, but just don't see the point in using trade capital when there are similar arms of the FA market for only slightly more AAV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Fairly lukewarm on this if Sox are ainvolved. If the price is really just Sheets, it'd be whatever to me. There are definitely worse options than Bundy, but just don't see the point in using trade capital when there are similar arms of the FA market for only slightly more AAV. Yeah it just wouldn't make sense to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Y’all thought I was crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Bundy would be interesting with Grandal. Orioles catching as a whole was one of the worst in the league in pitch framing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 He's just not good. No idea why they would be looking to him when there are better shitty pitchers available. It would have to include Mancini and that's not even really exciting. I just feel like the limited tradable assets we have could be put to better use than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Is Mancini supposed to be able to play RF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, raBBit said: Is Mancini supposed to be able to play RF? Not well, but he has played out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, raBBit said: Is Mancini supposed to be able to play RF? He's played 90 games there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: He's played 90 games there? Right I saw that I mean I've heard him referred to as a DH. I meant more towards is he capable. He's certainly a hitter but with Eloy in LF it's pretty tough throwing this guy in the other corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, raBBit said: Right I saw that I mean I've heard him referred to as a DH. I meant more towards is he capable. He's certainly a hitter but with Eloy in LF it's pretty tough throwing this guy in the other corner. Would probably be the same in RF as Castellanos. Tho mancini also played dh and 1st Edited November 28, 2019 by aeichhor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, teorey23 said: Y’all thought I was crazy... People thought you were crazy for the suggested package going to the O's... Andrew Vaughn Blake Rutherford Carlos Rodon Luis Basabe Konnor Pilkington No way I'm including Vaughn in a deal for them. And probably not Rodon either because he has a chance to rebuild value and this would be selling him at his lowest, which is dumb. EDIT: And if you are some sort of insider and heard this package bandied about, the Sox are gonna have quite a few PO'd fans should this deal go through. It does agree with raBBits post about the asking price being too high though. Edited November 28, 2019 by South Sider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, raBBit said: Is Mancini supposed to be able to play RF? Interesting that last year he had 319 AB as SS and 319 AB as 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, raBBit said: Right I saw that I mean I've heard him referred to as a DH. I meant more towards is he capable. He's certainly a hitter but with Eloy in LF it's pretty tough throwing this guy in the other corner. 3 minutes ago, aeichhor said: Would probably be the same in RF as Castellanos He looks a tad worse than Castellanos was this year overall but I didn't look by positions. And defensive advanced metrics I'm not great on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, South Sider said: People thought you were crazy for the suggested package going to the O's... Andrew Vaughn Blake Rutherford Carlos Rodon Luis Basabe Konnor Pilkington No way I'm including Vaughn in a deal for them. And probably not Rodon either because he has a chance to rebuild value and this would be selling him at his lowest, which is dumb. EDIT: And if you are some sort of insider and heard this package bandied about, the Sox are gonna have quite a few PO'd fans should this deal go through. It does agree with raBBits post about the asking price being too high though. All of that for 2 years of an average pitcher named Dylan Bundy? Good lord. They could have just signed Kyle Gibson and gotten an equivalent, if not better, pitcher. Edited November 28, 2019 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, GreenSox said: All of that for 2 years of an average pitcher named Dylan Bundy? Good lord. They could have just signed Kyle Gibson and gotten an equivalent, if not better, pitcher. I'm guessing for trey mancini also coming back with bundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, South Sider said: People thought you were crazy for the suggested package going to the O's... Andrew Vaughn Blake Rutherford Carlos Rodon Luis Basabe Konnor Pilkington No way I'm including Vaughn in a deal for them. And probably not Rodon either because he has a chance to rebuild value and this would be selling him at his lowest, which is dumb. EDIT: And if you are some sort of insider and heard this package bandied about, the Sox are gonna have quite a few PO'd fans should this deal go through. It does agree with raBBits post about the asking price being too high though. What kind of shit is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aeichhor said: I'm guessing for trey mancini also coming back with bundy Still too much, they need someone who can actually play RF, and they just don't need to do all of these load up the prospects in trades stuff. Make a trade like the Brewers/Padres made to move prospects/young players around. Edited November 28, 2019 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I just don't get what other player we would even want if it wasn't Mancini. This is all speculative obviously. Some random RP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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