bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He pushed these back after an article on how there was too little info on players since they signed earlier and earlier and the teams typically hid them after verbal agreements. Highlights: Yolbert: Quote Some clubs viewed Sanchez comparable to a minor league free agent, though others thought he would fit into the top three rounds of a draft because of his defensive ability at a premium position. Tatis: Quote Tatis has a simple, repeatable swing from the right side and a solid eye for the strike zone, though he doesn't have much strength or power at this point. Bailey: Quote At his size, Bailey's swing will probably always have some length, but he's a patient hitter with a good eye for the strike zone, which helped him hit immediately when he got to the DSL and faced better pitching than he was used to seeing in Panama. He's a corner outfielder who moves well for his size, though he will probably down as he gets older. Veras: Quote Veras, 17, attracted the White Sox attention for his righthanded power coming from his 6-foot-2, 180-pound frame, driving the ball out of the park to the middle of the field already, with the physical upside for more when he gets stronger. A below-average runner, Veras has a chance to stick at third base, where he has a strong arm and impressed White Sox officials with his hands and footwork. There is more so this is being nice. Small write-up, several follow-ups to 2018-19 class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 There is good stuff in here. The Benyamin Bailey write-up is really promising. Cristian Mena is a 16-year-old RHP from Dominican Republic as well. Athletic, projectable frame, easy delivery, and feel for 3 pitches. 91 MPH FB with a power breaking ball already. High spin rate curveballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: There is good stuff in here. The Benyamin Bailey write-up is really promising. Cristian Mena is a 16-year-old RHP from Dominican Republic as well. Athletic, projectable frame, easy delivery, and feel for 3 pitches. 91 MPH FB with a power breaking ball already. High spin rate curveballs. Mena's are the types of write-ups you want from a 16 year old. I really dislike how the sox keep going for young power/unprojectable body types though. They seem to end up with a lot of 19 year old first baseman out of international. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Any rumors on who the Sox might be targeting in 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 hours ago, steveno89 said: Any rumors on who the Sox might be targeting in 2020? Have seen nada. I should clarify, we have been speculated to be in on colas if he goes next period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, bmags said: Have seen nada. I should clarify, we have been speculated to be in on colas if he goes next period. I know we signed Yolbert Sanchez who was touted from the 2018 class, but 2019 seemed fairly disappointing in terms of international signings. I realize we got a few guys, but hopefully we can nab some top 30 talents in the 2020 class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 3:51 PM, bmags said: Have seen nada. I should clarify, we have been speculated to be in on colas if he goes next period. If Colas is the real deal and the Sox decide to pursue him, you'd have to think we're definite frontrunners with our group of Cubans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I have not heard of Veras but I like that profile. One ill keep an eye on going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 so BA did a "top 100 prospects of the latam class 2019" Sox only had one guy, it was yolbert (at #33). Just hope they either way overproduced from the penalty classes or were right about tatis/sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 4:58 PM, steveno89 said: I know we signed Yolbert Sanchez who was touted from the 2018 class, but 2019 seemed fairly disappointing in terms of international signings. I realize we got a few guys, but hopefully we can nab some top 30 talents in the 2020 class. I think the way this organization is laid out now, and the way Paddy operates in general, it will always be quantity over perceived quality. Paddy would rather have 6 guys near the back end of the top 30 or into the 40-50 range than 2 guys near the top unless that guy is a generational talent like Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 21 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I think the way this organization is laid out now, and the way Paddy operates in general, it will always be quantity over perceived quality. Paddy would rather have 6 guys near the back end of the top 30 or into the 40-50 range than 2 guys near the top unless that guy is a generational talent like Robert. That would be fine if he actually did that but he has really only had one class that looked like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: That would be fine if he actually did that but he has really only had one class that looked like that. Yeah, I agree with this - I'm not sure what to think of it, as this is what Paddy clearly excels preaches but the execution hasn't been there. Hopefully that'll change. I still think the White Sox feel morally uncomfortable in this market, but that is pure skepticism and coming from no actual knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yeah, I agree with this - I'm not sure what to think of it, as this is what Paddy clearly excels preaches but the execution hasn't been there. Hopefully that'll change. I still think the White Sox feel morally uncomfortable in this market, but that is pure skepticism and coming from no actual knowledge. This is like the KW-JR thing with Hahn. Some will say Paddy should quit if he's not receiving the resources or support he needs, but he also has one of the most secure positions in the industry. If you go by the success or projected success of Abreu, Tatis and Robert, that’s one of the most successful runs for any teams in the majors. But if you look beyond those topline guys, other than Adolfo...who’s at best a huge question mark, we probably have the worst record in the big leagues in Latin American talent identification, converting on those targets and development, especially on the pitching side. https://southsideshowdown.com/2015/07/02/chicago-white-sox-add-4-international-free-agents/ None of those other three signed with Tatis have done much. But it's always a crapshoot, right? Just looked it up, Paddy wasn’t as involved with Quintana, fwiw. “The Chicago White Sox’ scouts Daraka Shaheed and Joe Siers, who watched Quintana pitch in the FSL the previous season, recommended that the team sign him.“ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Can you really count Abreu and Robert in that though? It's not like the Sox "found" them. They were both considered can't miss guys, every scout knew that. The Cuban thing is clearly beyond just perception at this point. With that being said the LatAm thing is one of the more frustrating things about this franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Can you really count Abreu and Robert in that though? It's not like the Sox "found" them. They were both considered can't miss guys, every scout knew that. The Cuban thing is clearly beyond just perception at this point. With that being said the LatAm thing is one of the more frustrating things about this franchise. Well, Viciedo wasn’t far off from can’t miss, he was the highest under 21 bonus at that time...but we also know about Rusney Castillo, Yasmani Tomas, Hector Olivera and Jorge Soler until last season, etc. So they have to get credit for being right 4/5 times, if you include Alexei Ramirez, too. https://www.forbes.com/sites/arikaplan/2018/12/23/the-value-of-the-mlb-deal-with-cuba/#4f379dd1149c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Well, Viciedo wasn’t far off from can’t miss, he was the highest under 21 bonus at that time...but we also know about Rusney Castillo, Yasmani Tomas, Hector Olivera and Jorge Soler until last season, etc. So they have to get credit for being right 4/5 times, if you include Alexei Ramirez, too. https://www.forbes.com/sites/arikaplan/2018/12/23/the-value-of-the-mlb-deal-with-cuba/#4f379dd1149c I'm not trying to discredit the Sox at all, at the end of the day they were able to lock up 2 cogs for this eventual playoff machine. There is a difference though signing an under 21 LatAM prospect and signing one that is polished and 26 or 27 or whatever Abreu was. That kind of talent at that age is noticeably MLB caliber, the same with a guy like Gurriel. And LuBob is/was being heralded as a generational type player. My point is both of those 2 moves were relatively low risk, in relative terms. Wake me up when they start churning out 100k signing bonus guys into MLB starters. Edited February 1, 2020 by BackDoorBreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I'm not trying to discredit the Sox at all, at the end of the day they were able to lock up 2 cogs for this eventual playoff machine. There is a difference though signing an under 21 LatAM prospect and signing one that is polished and 26 or 27 or whatever Abreu was. That kind of talent at that age is noticeably MLB caliber, the same with a guy like Gurriel. And LuBob is/was being heralded as a generational type player. My point is both of those 2 moves were relatively low risk, in relative terms. Wake me up when they start churning out 100k signing bonus guys into MLB starters. Benyamin Fooking Bailey. The guy is going to be a god damn stud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 Sounds like @Y2Jimmy0 has the goods on J2 tomorrow. Very pumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, bmags said: Sounds like @Y2Jimmy0 has the goods on J2 tomorrow. Very pumped. It's not much so far. I'm hoping for something bigger but they have the funds and it's their typical playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It's not much so far. I'm hoping for something bigger but they have the funds and it's their typical playbook. ah, I thought the $2 mill committed may have something good. Colas would be a relief, though I'm a bit surprised to read how many "7 figure" Cuban prospects there were, seems like they get such pub when they become available. Very freakin annoyed the Astros could come out and make a splash signing, ridiculous they weren't Braves'd out of international. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 It is probably bs, but worth a share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It is probably bs, but worth a share. The youngest brother is supposed to be the best of the bunch and the Sox are reportedly signing him too. It's 2022 though international draft could mess up those plans potentially. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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