SoxAce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Wow, my guy raBBit dropping those heat bombs just in the nick of time! I’m going to say one of the frameworks is a deal with the Rockies for Gray + Blackmon. We take on most if not all of Charlie’s contract and give up very little in return. If I'm taking on Blackmon's contract (and he's probably a DH at this point too) I'd much rather aim higher. Give me Marquez who would probably be electric getting out of Coors (Gray's numbers strangely are better at Coors than away). Plus, Marquez is controlled longer. Damn I just looked at Blackmon's contract again. Player options through 2022 and 2023. Ew, but I actually thought he had another year on that thing so that's good. Edited December 10, 2019 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: If I'm taking on Blackmon's contract (and he's probably a DH at this point too) I'd much rather aim higher. Give me Marquez who would probably be electric getting out of Coors (Gray's numbers strangely are better at Coors than away). Plus, Marquez is controlled longer. Yeah, I think you’d have to get Marquez due to the control. How did Blackmon’d defense fall off a cliff like that? His range was even bad for RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Lol no one knows how to overreact like a white sox fan. Is it not in the white sox best interest to push back against any narrative that they have to get something done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Yeah, I think you’d have to get Marquez due to the control. How did Blackmon’d defense fall off a cliff like that? His range was even bad for RF. He really is brutal out there. You see his CF metrics? Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Not that it means it’s set in stone or anything, but Rockies reportedly aren’t interested in moving Gray. https://www.mlb.com/news/rockies-plans-taking-shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, SoxAce said: He really is brutal out there. You see his CF metrics? Yikes. I did and it’s crazy how quickly his defense deteriorated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I’m not thrilled with Blackmon at this point in his career but Marquez would be a huge get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 With the price smoke from last night, this screams Red Sox / white Sox trade right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Lol no one knows how to overreact like a white sox fan. Is it not in the white sox best interest to push back against any narrative that they have to get something done? Considering the Sox success rate with their main targets, if you truly believe this, you may as well save the post so you can copy and paste it into next offseason’s hot stove discussions. We all understand the BS GM talk but it’s still time to put up or shut up. Hahn has been talking about this offseason for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Considering the Sox success rate with their main targets, if you truly believe this, you may as well save the post so you can copy and paste it into next offseason’s hot stove discussions. We all understand the BS GM talk but it’s still time to put up or shut up. Hahn has been talking about this offseason for awhile. I mean, theyve completed 1 and missed 2. I'm not sure that's awful; wheeler was frustrating but not bad. Friedman said last night that the Dodgers have about 15 players they are interested in this off-season - which is down from typical years. What percentage do you think the Dodgers expect to convert on? If they had no interest in Bumgarner before wheeler signed they should have no interest now. Edited December 10, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlsoxfan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Jd Martinez and David Price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said: SP & RF is what I assume that “two holes one swing” comment means. Let’s see if we finally get some action today! Could be the Rockies as other have said. Pirates also could fill SP and RF. Pirates are also “rebuilding” in a sense they have no chance at winning that division. Prospects make more sense going back to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I mean, theyve completed 1 and missed 2. I'm not sure that's awful; wheeler was frustrating but not bad. Friedman said last night that the Dodgers have about 15 players they are interested in this off-season - which is down from typical years. What percentage do you think the Dodgers expect to convert on? If they had no interest in Bumgarner before wheeler signed they should have no interest now. Are you seriously comparing the Sox to the Dodgers? When was the last time the Sox went to the playoffs back to back years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, HakunaMachado said: With the price smoke from last night, this screams Red Sox / white Sox trade right??? Very possible. The Sox have financial flexibility and may prefer using that then overspending on free agent starters they don’t love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Very possible. The Sox have financial flexibility and may prefer using that then overspending on free agent starters they don’t love. If it’s Price + JDM over Price + Benintendi, see you later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cashman said: Are you seriously comparing the Sox to the Dodgers? When was the last time the Sox went to the playoffs back to back years? What does that have to do with an MLB teams expected conversion rate in FA and the trade market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 why do we want to take on bad contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What does that have to do with an MLB teams expected conversion rate in FA and the trade market? A lot when one team is willing to pay the going rate for top free agents and another apparently is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Right now there are over 11 teams that could be interested in mad baum. if we dont land him sox fans will kill hahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said: Right now there are over 11 teams that could be interested in mad baum. if we dont land him sox fans will kill hahn I dont think many people on here will groan about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What does that have to do with an MLB teams expected conversion rate in FA and the trade market? You are comparing a successful organization with one that appears to belong in minor leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said: why do we want to take on bad contracts? To obtain what we need (SP and RF) for a minimal cost in talent, considering the free agent options aren’t ideal and will also require bad contracts. I’d take on Price’s bad contract if it means we also acquire a 25 year old lefty hitting outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Twins are all over that second tier of pitching Free Agents. I just can’t force myself to believe the Sox aren’t trying to ruin one of those signings. It can’t be so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Cashman said: You are comparing a successful organization with one that appears to belong in minor leagues. So a bad organization should convert on a higher percentage? I'm not comparing anything, I'm saying the Sox have not been some epic because they converted on 1 of 3 targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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