bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Beast said: How bad would Bumgarner and Keuchel be? It would be a deeper pitching staff which would add quite a bit of value to the Sox (especially next year), but it would be bloated and hard to improve upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So the Price and Benintendi for scraps idea seems a bit more reasonable now? Price isn't worthless. I don't think they'll give you Benni for free essentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BamaDoc said: Offer 6/180 for Strasburg. 7/225 for Cole. Make it have a time limit if you want. If nothing else you tried and cause others to up offers and hurt their flexibility. Those offers are way too light based on what Wheeler just landed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, BamaDoc said: Offer 6/180 for Strasburg. 7/225 for Cole. Make it have a time limit if you want. If nothing else you tried and cause others to up offers and hurt their flexibility based on this current market that’s probably 10-20% lower than numbers Boras is already getting for those guys. Stras met with Yankees yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: Price isn't worthless. I don't think they'll give you Benni for free essentially. But he’s not worth his contract even in this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Stopgaps for a year and 2021 here we come. Don't see how they can contend next year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I have Cole at 8/280 and I think that will be close to accurate even now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Cole is getting around 280. 225 is a waste of everyone's minutes. Edited December 4, 2019 by BackDoorBreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 What would they have to give up to get someone like Musgrove from the Pirates? Something that doesn't involve young pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: Offer 6/180 for Strasburg. 7/225 for Cole. Make it have a time limit if you want. If nothing else you tried and cause others to up offers and hurt their flexibility. Those offers are way too light based on what Wheeler just landed. Oh, I am in no way implying those would be winning bids but it might cause other teams to up offers knowing you are in the ballpark. Make them spend more than they want. Make it hurt. Maybe just maybe it takes one of them out on someone like a RF next year. I'll put something in my "Realistic Offseason Thread" later. This really shouldn't be that unexpected. What is a positive is we showed we would spend 25 million on a pitcher. The Nationals won a world series by reallocating Harpers money into multiple players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Give Cole the contract we offered Machado without all the stupid performance clauses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, GreenSox said: What would they have to give up to get someone like Musgrove from the Pirates? Something that doesn't involve young pitching. I don't know if you could get a starting pitcher without giving up a pitcher in return. So many of the Sox minor league hitters had mediocre seasons, not much value to work with right now. I fear Stiever may be used as trade bait, and I'm not all that sold on selling him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I really think we are fucked in terms of plan B’s unless we can pull off Ryu and right now there is absolutely nothing linking us to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Give Cole the contract we offered Machado without all the stupid performance clauses. We already spent 70 million of our team budget so 180-230 is all we have left. Sorry Cole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Cole is not happening, but if I were Hahn I’d try to convince Jerry to add $75M and go get Strasburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I don't know if you could get a starting pitcher without giving up a pitcher in return. So many of the Sox minor league hitters had mediocre seasons, not much value to work with right now. I fear Stiever may be used as trade bait, and I'm not all that sold on selling him. He's the guy I absolutely don't want to sell. He's got "top 100" written all over him soon. Yes you're right teams want pitching back and the Sox 2nd tier hitting prospects had poor years overall. That leaves 3 veterans to trade: McCann Colome Bummer And then they'll need a completely new pen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, bmags said: I have Cole at 8/280 and I think that will be close to accurate even now. I hope none of us would entertain that as a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I really think we are fucked in terms of plan B’s unless we can pull off Ryu and right now there is absolutely nothing linking us to him. I agree, but I don't even think Ryu is a great option given his age and terrible record of staying on the field. I don't see 32 yr. old + pitchers being much help to the contention "window" that is supposed to be starting 2021-22. When the time comes you'll actually rely on these guys they are going to be broken or starting to have regression hit their performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Give Cole the contract we offered Machado without all the stupid performance clauses. Yeah...a 10 year pitchers contract is going to happen.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Not sure they're fucked. Madison Bumgarner is not my favorite FA, but he'd be an incredibly massive upgrade over what they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Plan B for me is waiting until Monday to look at this anymore because there is no free agent remaining worth me staring at this all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Castellanos, Keuchel (big meh), Taijuan Walker... call it an offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: Castellanos, Keuchel (big meh), Taijuan Walker... call it an offseason And we'll win 76 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: And we'll win 76 games. Hey, don’t be negative, 78 is more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, hi8is said: Stopgaps for a year and 2021 here we come. Don't see how they can contend next year now. Last year, it was the Padres; this year the Phillies. Next year it will be the Rangers or Giants. It's not happening with this outfit until they show tangible results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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