SoxBlanco Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, centerfieldsixers said: god my grammar sucks today You can just click EDIT and fix any typos/grammar issues that you might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, zisk said: Hence the inclusion of Porcello. RP has a weird career pattern of being good every other year. Guess which year it is. One thing to like about Porcello also, is his willingness to pitch inside. He hits 10-12 hitters almost every year even with really good control. He knows his stuff isn't great so he actually pitches. Mentioned this a few times but I think Porcello tried to buy into the elevated 4seamer last year and it hurt him. I think if he just goes back to relying on his 2 seamer he is a decent (4.25-4.5 era) pitcher with obviously the ability to eat innings and potentially a plus year if our defense improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I say we don't have a chance in hell on Cole. Why not Strasburg? The White Sox were willing to offer 24/mil a year for Wheeler. Strasburg will command a 5 or 6 year deal and realistically a 31-33 mil AAV. How is that out of their realm since his fWAR alone more than makes up that difference in Salary from Wheeler and then some. He is honestly the perfect fit for the team and window of contention. Obviously bidding against the Nationals and Yankees will be difficult, but it's time to step up and become elite with one Marquee FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) On to Plan B... We can roll this out around this time every friggin year. With the buzz of last off-season, as much as I loathed Reinsdorf, I was getting ready to heap tons on praise on him for finally bringing the White Sox back to national prominence. I believed they had plenty of money. Lord knows he doesn't spend any of it. 100-120 million dollar payrolls was not getting it done. I thought a Renaissance was coming. Man I truly got played. It wasn"t happening to me again. Walk the Walk. Edited December 5, 2019 by GradMc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 If it's any consolation, the Twins still don't have any pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: Why not Strasburg? Boras is his agent. Not happening as long as Uncle Jerry still owns the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, bmags said: Mentioned this a few times but I think Porcello tried to buy into the elevated 4seamer last year and it hurt him. I think if he just goes back to relying on his 2 seamer he is a decent (4.25-4.5 era) pitcher with obviously the ability to eat innings and potentially a plus year if our defense improves. Guys with 4.5 ERA's are going to win quite a few games with our improved defense and greatly improved lineup. Grandel is going to help as well. Our pitchers don't all need to win 1-0 & 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, GradMc said: On to Plan B... We can roll this out around this time every friggin year. With the buzz of last off-season, as much as I loathed Reinsdorf, I was getting ready to heap tons on praise on him for finally bringing the White Sox back to national prominence. I believed they had plenty of money. Lord knows he doesn't spend any of it. 100-120 million dollar payrolls was not getting it done. I thought a Renaissance was coming. Man I truly got played. It wasn"t happening to me again. Walk the Walk. December 5 is a little early to throw in the towel. It ain't over til RH says it's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 you got played by Wheeler, not the white sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, poppysox said: December 5 is a little early to throw in the towel. It ain't over til RH says it's over. Well Rick Hahn hasn't said anything because he is somewhere breaking a wall lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 24 hours later, I'm good with Ryu. Especially with Grandal here. Get a deal done with LA to get Pederson and Maeda here. Sign Castellanos. Hope 1 or 2 of Kopech/Lopez/Cease/Rodon make a leap like Moncada/Gio/TA/Eloy did last year. Dont know a much better way outside of Hahn having a big trade up his sleeve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It's quiet.... too quiet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Soxnfins said: It's quiet.... too quiet.... Have to regroup after yesterday. I’m surprised at how quiet it is around all of baseball today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Soxnfins said: It's quiet.... too quiet.... All the power players are gonna start making way to San D. Think the flurry yesterday was getting things done before the meetings. Its gonna stay quiet through the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: It's quiet.... too quiet.... Our best deals come out of the blue. Grandal was a pleasant surprise. These deals that are be talked about for days just seem to blowup. RH does his best work in stealth mode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Pal said: 24 hours later, I'm good with Ryu. Especially with Grandal here. Get a deal done with LA to get Pederson and Maeda here. Sign Castellanos. Hope 1 or 2 of Kopech/Lopez/Cease/Rodon make a leap like Moncada/Gio/TA/Eloy did last year. Dont know a much better way outside of Hahn having a big trade up his sleeve. This to me appears to be the best track going forward (barring any major RF or SP tracks)... Minus the Castellanos. He has no role here anymore (Thanks Abreu....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 All I know is I'm super-glad I'm not in Hahn & Co's shoes right now. Even as a fan I have no answers (and we fans have the benefit of making illogical conclusions). We need a SP1/SP2 type, but the options sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Obviously the Sox have inside info that Carlos Rodon is primed for a 5 WAR season. Rotation help? They have "too much pitching" in the legendary words of one poster here. No need to sign anybody good in FA. Just sign Nova and Walker and call it good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: All I know is I'm super-glad I'm not in Hahn & Co's shoes right now. Even as a fan I have no answers (and we fans have the benefit of making illogical conclusions). We need a SP1/SP2 type, but the options sucks. This isn't life or death and he won't get fired regardless so I'd gladly be in his shoes. Also I have plenty of answers and would be an excellent GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, bmags said: This isn't life or death and he won't get fired regardless so I'd gladly be in his shoes. Also I have plenty of answers and would be an excellent GM. Hahn brought some really tasty corn salad to JR's Holiday party last weekend. He's in line for a pay raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: This to me appears to be the best track going forward (barring any major RF or SP tracks)... Minus the Castellanos. He has no role here anymore (Thanks Abreu....) Why can't he play RF against lefties and be a DH/occasional RF the rest of the time? Especially if the primary RF is a guy like Pederson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Pal said: Why can't he play RF against lefties and be a DH/occasional RF the rest of the time? Especially if the primary RF is a guy like Pederson. For one year?? Sure.. But Abreu's next 2 years will be full time DH.. Castellanos can not be a full time RF with Eloy in LF. Recipe for disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 There’s way too many possibilities left to be upset this early. Grandal + Ryu Encarnacion Joc That would still be a great off season in my opinion. Fills DH + RF without making any crazy long term commitments to questionable free agents. Vaughn will be up next year and giving Castellanos/Ozuna 16+ mil to play RF for the next 4 years is honestly pretty scary. Pitching will clearly define this off season tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: There’s way too many possibilities left to be upset this early. Grandal + Ryu Encarnacion Joc That would still be a great off season in my opinion. Fills DH + RF without making any crazy long term commitments to questionable free agents. Vaughn will be up next year and giving Castellanos/Ozuna 16+ mil to play RF for the next 4 years is honestly pretty scary. Pitching will clearly define this off season tho Yea and if I win the lottery this month it will be a good year. Haven't won it yet but this is the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: There’s way too many possibilities left to be upset this early. Grandal + Ryu Encarnacion Joc That would still be a great off season in my opinion. Fills DH + RF without making any crazy long term commitments to questionable free agents. Vaughn will be up next year and giving Castellanos/Ozuna 16+ mil to play RF for the next 4 years is honestly pretty scary. Pitching will clearly define this off season tho This would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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