caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Caleb Smith...Marlins Jon Gray/Freeland/Hoffman...Rockies Robbie Ray...DBacks Matthew Boyd...Tigers Marco Gonzales...Mariners Tijuan Walker...DBacks Jimmy Nelson...Brewers Corey Kluber...Indians (highly unlikely) Chris Archer...Pirates Jeff Samardzija...Giants (highly unlikely) Price/Eovaldi/Sale...Red Sox (highly unlikely) Debate/discuss. Who can the White Sox afford to acquire in terms of talent surrendered? For which prospects/suspects? Who is worth trading for and then attempting to extend in this new FA universe of exploding contracts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Caleb Smith...Marlins Jon Gray/Freeland/Hoffman...Rockies Robbie Ray...DBacks Matthew Boyd...Tigers Marco Gonzales...Mariners Tijuan Walker...DBacks Jimmy Nelson...Brewers Corey Kluber...Indians (highly unlikely) Chris Archer...Pirates Jeff Samardzija...Giants (highly unlikely) Price/Eovaldi/Sale...Red Sox (highly unlikely) Debate/discuss. Who can the White Sox afford to acquire in terms of talent surrendered? For which prospects/suspects? Who is worth trading for and then attempting to extend in this new FA universe of exploding contracts? FYI...Walker is a free agent. I worry we go out and use of few trade assets for Gonzalez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Caleb Smith...Marlins Jon Gray/Freeland/Hoffman...Rockies Robbie Ray...DBacks Matthew Boyd...Tigers Marco Gonzales...Mariners Tijuan Walker...DBacks Jimmy Nelson...Brewers Corey Kluber...Indians (highly unlikely) Chris Archer...Pirates Jeff Samardzija...Giants (highly unlikely) Price/Eovaldi/Sale...Red Sox (highly unlikely) Debate/discuss. Who can the White Sox afford to acquire in terms of talent surrendered? For which prospects/suspects? Who is worth trading for and then attempting to extend in this new FA universe of exploding contracts? Nelson is a FA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 Okay, I see where he was just non-tendered. Gonzales is find for the back-end guy...but that’s actually where there a number of “free” options like Wacha, A.Wood (injury risk), Roark, Miley, Porcello, Gio, Teheran (lost stuff), Rich Hill (just had surgery and will miss first half), B.Anderson, Cahill, Smyly, Lyles and Buchholz. Yes, yet another list. But what else can be done? That’s basically all there is to work with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Nelson is a FA as well. I guess one of these guys will be the next Erwin Santana/Felipe Paulino... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 If we’re making a trade, I’d go after Gray or Marquez with the Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 You could make an accurate list 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bmags said: You could make an accurate list Only if they change the Cole headline, lol...I suppose next I need to travel 5,000 miles to the Winter Meetings and do some investigative reporting to make sure these names are all actually available and not merely speculative. Btw, Marquez would be great...but I didn’t put him down because I assumed the cost for him, Thor or deGrom would be prohibitive. Maybe Stroman if the Mets fall out of it again and new ownership wants to start paring payroll. Edited December 6, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Rays know what they're doing on these trades; terrific pro scouting. And they got Pham in the first place for not a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Caleb Smith...Marlins Jon Gray/Freeland/Hoffman...Rockies Robbie Ray...DBacks Matthew Boyd...Tigers Marco Gonzales...Mariners Tijuan Walker...DBacks Jimmy Nelson...Brewers Corey Kluber...Indians (highly unlikely) Chris Archer...Pirates Jeff Samardzija...Giants (highly unlikely) Price/Eovaldi/Sale...Red Sox (highly unlikely) Debate/discuss. Who can the White Sox afford to acquire in terms of talent surrendered? For which prospects/suspects? Who is worth trading for and then attempting to extend in this new FA universe of exploding contracts? I wouldn’t trade prospects for any of these guys. We might as well bring back Nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: I wouldn’t trade prospects for any of these guys. We might as well bring back Nova. Agreed. Who’s the girl in your avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Chris Archer...Pirates The perennially overrated Archer and his 2019 5+ ERA sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) At this stage of the rebuild (we've yet to come close a winning season), I don't feel comfortable making any trade unless it's swapping a borderline prospect (Jake Peter) for a vet I think a lot of this club's answers have been (Collins, Vaughn, Madrigal, Moncada, Anderson, Eloy, Robert, Kopech, Gio, Cease, Bummer, Fry) and are (RF- Micker, Rutherford, Gonzalez, Walker, Basabe...SP- Dunning, Lambert...RP- Johnson, Burdi) within the system...That's how we stay young, cheap, and competitive long term If this team is competing around the Trade Deadline with the long term vision of this team confirmed, I'd feel more comfortable making a deal But for now we should utilize FA...Roark? Miley?...Keep your assets Edited December 6, 2019 by ChiSoxJon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: If we’re making a trade, I’d go after Gray or Marquez with the Rockies. I really like Marquez. Take him out of Coors and he's got TOR numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, chw42 said: I really like Marquez. Take him out of Coors and he's got TOR numbers. Yup, he’d be ideal, no idea if the Rockies would even consider moving him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, chw42 said: I really like Marquez. Take him out of Coors and he's got TOR numbers. Jeff Marquez? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Jeff Marquez? German Marquez, a fantasy league favorite the first half last season. His stuff is just a notch below that first tier, similar to Castillo of the Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I like Jon Gray and Chris Archer but Im no expert on pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Kenta Maeda requested to be traded if the Dodgers were going to keep him in the bullpen. Dodgers told him to deal with it. he’d be expensive to trade for, considering he’s really good, was posted, and is under contract through 2022. but worth a phone call to LA I’d think. Edited December 6, 2019 by Charlie Haeger's Knuckles Mobile typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Marquez from the Rockies. I don't know what the Rockies are doing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Marquez from the Rockies. I don't know what the Rockies are doing though. "retooling" and trying to offload some bigger contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Guys I'd consider as long as the price wasn't too prohibitive. None of these guys fit the mold of TOR, and only have a few have the capability. Jon Gray Sandy Alcantara (GB, back of rotation guy) - maybe something like trading Reynaldo to Marlins for Alcantara + another guy from Marlins? Just think Alcantara might fit the Sox park mold better w/ groundball profile, plus more control for a few years. basically swapping a 4/5 for a 4/5. Kluber - he's my favorite target, but obviuosly interdivision probably wont happen unless Lindor is also on the move. I think Kluber has the chance to be Verlander'esque - meaning he can keep his career going through his upper 30's. Kluber really never had a falloff, just a freak injury. I'd want to target him in FA afer this year too. Nelson - free, just money Eovaldi - if they can chip in something else. Or take those 3 years at the cost and grab something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Julio Urias - tho he would cost way more than I'd want to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Julio Urias - tho he would cost way more than I'd want to pay Quality starting pitching is too expensive for the Sox to be trading for at this stage. It would be a different story if we were one quality starter away from being able to make a deep playoff run, but we just are not there yet. We have created this financial flexibility and should leverage it to improve the roster in any way possible. Teams will certainly ask for our top young assets like Madrigal, Cease, Kopech, and Vaughn, which we should not be trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Nelson is probably a minor league deal at this point no? Really feel for that guy, puts it all together then is injured his years before FA where he can cash in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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