chetkincaid Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Maybe this is Hahn throwing his hands up at a disappointing Winter Meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 WHO IS THIS PEGGY PERSON?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Vaughn/Dahlquist/Thompson.......hmm I doubt they trade any of those 3 at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Orlando said: It may not happen, but I am tired of talking about Mazara. Let's get some fresh conversation going as we wait for (possibly) more action. If you had to guess, what trade proposal do the Sox have on the table? Please be Correa, please be Correa, please be Correa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: WHO IS THIS PEGGY PERSON?? Agent Carter or Peggy Kusinski. I'm sure it's one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Maybe Hahn is torturing the guy who leaks to Peggy's son and this is a part of it. Kid is an embarrassment. He still pimps his Twitter with the Joc trade that never actually came to fruition. Edited December 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: Please be Correa, please be Correa, please be Correa. “Where would be play?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, bmags said: Somebody needs to shut down whatever trade this is, I'm sure it's terrible. This is kind of how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, poppysox said: I don't think we have the pieces. We are in the strange position of having very good top 50 guys like you mention and very thin after that. Guys like Walker was are not much to bait the hook with and Kopech, Madrigal, Robert and Vaugh types are more valuable to us and our needs. Madrigal & Vaughn plus would be similar to the fleecing we gave the Cubs for Q. Our best trade affordable trade chips are probably McCann, Fry, Fuller and Rodon... maybe Colome. I would part with Vaugh + a couple of names I mentioned. That wouldn't be enough to get it done IMO. Blake Snell is much more valuable than Quintana was when we dealt him. Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up for his prime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said: “Where would be play?” Yes I’m intrigued I guess but not seeing a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, bmags said: Somebody needs to shut down whatever trade this is, I'm sure it's terrible. LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I doubt they trade any of those 3 at this stage Then they won't get anything of true value.....unless it's a package of major leaguers like ReyLo/Bummer/Fry etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve9347 said: Blake Snell is much more valuable than Quintana was when we dealt him. Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up for his prime. I think they're similar. Snell has only had the one excellent year. He's coming off of a year worse than Quintana's 2017. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: I think they're similar. Snell has only had the one excellent year. He's coming off of a year worse than Quintana's 2017. False. The guy had a 3.32 FIP last year with a 12.9 K/9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve9347 said: Blake Snell is much more valuable than Quintana was when we dealt him. Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up for his prime. I'm not knocking Snell as much as voicing my displeasure with getting rid of Madrigal who I see as integral to the next 10 + years of WS baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: False. The guy had a 3.32 FIP last year with a 12.9 K/9 With a 4.29 ERA. Snell racks up Ks so his FIP is always going to be low. The Javier Vazquez fallacy. Edited December 11, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: Blake Snell is much more valuable than Quintana was when we dealt him. Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up for his prime. Yeah come on....... Snell and Sale were not even comparable at the time of their trades.. Stop it. Sale was a top 3 starting pitcher in the league.. Snell had one amazing year surrounded by.. dissappointement? Edited December 11, 2019 by cjgalloway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, cjgalloway said: Yeah come on....... Snell and Sale were not even comparable at the time of their trades.. Stop it. Reading comprehension? The comparison was Snell to Quintana, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: Yeah come on....... Snell and Sale were not even comparable at the time of their trades.. Stop it. And Vaughn and Madrigal is arguably a better package than Moncada and Kopech at the time of the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: With a 4.46 ERA. Snell racks up Ks so his FIP is always going to be low. The Javier Vazquez fallacy. We're in a handy dandy world where advanced statistics in baseball are so mature that we can see the truth behind the numbers. FIP is a much better representation of production than ERA. How are we still having this convo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Steve9347 said: Reading comprehension? The comparison was Snell to Quintana, yo. "Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up in his prime".. you just said this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: Blake Snell is much more valuable than Quintana was when we dealt him. Snell is like getting Chris Sale locked up for his prime. Sale was even more valuable than Snell in my opinion. Had not dealt with some of the injuries, back to back 200+ IP seasons and much higher WAR for Sale Sale was the most valuable starting pitcher traded in ages and on a cheap contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: And Vaughn and Madrigal is arguably a better package than Moncada and Kopech at the time of the trade. I guess anything is arguable, but no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Arenado became available yesterday afternoon. Would Vaughn, Madrigal, Dahlquist & Thompson get it done? Could something along those lines be this interesting offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: And Vaughn and Madrigal is arguably a better package than Moncada and Kopech at the time of the trade. My goodness. Soxtalk has really become something over the past few years. Moncada had big-league at bats and was the #1 prospect in all of baseball at time of the trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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