bmags Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Sox should want no part of Price I cannot imagine Boston would eat $60 million just to move him, there's a difference between teams expressing interest and actually trading for him. The $24 million was in reference to the AAV not the total contract value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, bmags said: Getting down to the $24 million mentioned in the article. No way they’re getting anything of value selling Price at 3/$72M. Kluber, a guy who put up 30 WAR over the five years preceding a bad 2019 returned a high end relief prospect plus an Adam Engle type. His contract situation is so much more team friendly than the Price deal you’re proposing and he offers way more upside. Honestly, I think Price would be lucky to get 3/$50M even in this market, which means your $22M too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, bmags said: There's been a lot of red flag pitchers getting paid. Clearly there are multiple teams bidding on price, which is a good position for Boston to be in. Do I think anyone will feel sad about whatever return boston gets, not really, I also don't even want price. But the fact is Boston will almost certainly be able to shed price to the dollar amount they need. It's another feather in the cap for not worrying so much about the last few years of a deal. Who are all these “red flag” pitchers getting paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Who are all these “red flag” pitchers getting paid? Name a pitcher that isn't gerrit cole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 All I will say is, if any team is dumb enough to accept the kind of deal that Boston is proposing, it better not be the White Sox. I will be really shocked if Bloom gets the kind of deal, for which he is asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Lillian said: All I will say is, if any team is dumb enough to accept the kind of deal that Boston is proposing, it better not be the White Sox. I will be really shocked if Bloom gets the kind of deal, for which he is asking. I think that this off season needed to be about pitching, pitching, pitching. But I whole heartedly agree with you about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Princess Dye Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 P-Gammo's bout done 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Princess Dye said: so a top 10 prospect and a top 30 one for a guy with about 40 million in dead money on his deal relative to production and a 2.5 WAR corner OF already in arb. Gammons, just retire dude you called the wrong number that wasn't a Red Sox FO member that answered it was the Barstool Boston guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: This is such a ridiculous proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBBrian13 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: so a top 10 prospect and a top 30 one for a guy with about 40 million in dead money on his deal relative to production and a 2.5 WAR corner OF already in arb. Gammons, just retire dude you called the wrong number that wasn't a Red Sox FO member that answered it was the Barstool Boston guy. Totally agree with you! One of the dumber trade possibilities I've read lately. But, since we are talking about the White Sox FO ... what if this was actually true?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, QBBrian13 said: Totally agree with you! One of the dumber trade possibilities I've read lately. But, since we are talking about the White Sox FO ... what if this was actually true?? It's not, and if it is the talks are over and Boston isn't really interested in moving price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 If Boston is really talking Betts trade with Dodgers, the Price trade probably lingers for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachy Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Let's look at the track records and see which is more likey: A) Peter Gammons, who has always had great ties with Boston, is simply mistaken B) The White Sox front office, which has made one questionable decision after another, who have also shown an ineptitude in evaluating their own prospects, are seriously considering this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bachy said: Let's look at the track records and see which is more likey: A) Peter Gammons, who has always had great ties with Boston, is simply mistaken B) The White Sox front office, which has made one questionable decision after another, who have also shown an ineptitude in evaluating their own prospects, are seriously considering this. Gammo is senile as all shit dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, bachy said: Let's look at the track records and see which is more likey: A) Peter Gammons, who has always had great ties with Boston, is simply mistaken B) The White Sox front office, which has made one questionable decision after another, who have also shown an ineptitude in evaluating their own prospects, are seriously considering this. I've ripped KW, RH as much as anyone, but there is no chance they would trade Madrigal and Vaughn in the same deal, let alone for a 35 year old injured pticher, unless they were guaranteed the ALC title the next 3 or 4 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bachy said: Let's look at the track records and see which is more likey: A) Peter Gammons, who has always had great ties with Boston, is simply mistaken B) The White Sox front office, which has made one questionable decision after another, who have also shown an ineptitude in evaluating their own prospects, are seriously considering this. Show me a single mega trade the sox have made in recent memory where they got completely fleeced. It's almost like fans cant seperate the teams inability to do well in other areas from their ability to do well in trades. There is nothing about hahns trade history that makes me concerned that hes going to give up the farm here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Vaughn is in a trade rumor so Bostonians can click something juicy. Thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, fathom said: If Boston is really talking Betts trade with Dodgers, the Price trade probably lingers for a while Everyone is saying nightengale report is likely nonsense. Said this before but the red sox arent trading Mookie. I also think they want to do everything they fan to resign him but they dont want to publically show that and take away the little leverage they have in shedding salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Show me a single mega trade the sox have made in recent memory where they got completely fleeced. It's almost like fans cant seperate the teams inability to do well in other areas from their ability to do well in trades. There is nothing about hahns trade history that makes me concerned that hes going to give up the farm here. Does Shields/Tatis count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, bachy said: Let's look at the track records and see which is more likey: A) Peter Gammons, who has always had great ties with Boston, is simply mistaken B) The White Sox front office, which has made one questionable decision after another, who have also shown an ineptitude in evaluating their own prospects, are seriously considering this. A is more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Everyone is saying nightengale report is likely nonsense. Said this before but the red sox arent trading Mookie. I also think they want to do everything they fan to resign him but they dont want to publically show that and take away the little leverage they have in shedding salaries. Completely agree with this. I really wonder if Boston's goal of shedding salaries is more for a Betts extension rather than moving payroll under the luxury tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Isn’t the story that Gammons received a text from a source that said the trade idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: A is more likely Yeah, I don't think Gammons has been right about anything like this for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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