steveno89 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Puig has had how many chances to prove he is more than a flash in the pan hot name rookie? 2 teams and 5 years later he has more red flags than teams interested? No Thanks. I also think the Sox pass on Puig. Mazara actually hit right handed pitching pretty well in 2019, and I think they will look for a relatively inexpensive option to platoon and play against LHP in right field. Leury Garcia was actually pretty solid against LHP, batting .311 against them in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: I also think the Sox pass on Puig. Mazara actually hit right handed pitching pretty well in 2019, and I think they will look for a relatively inexpensive option to platoon and play against LHP in right field. Leury Garcia was actually pretty solid against LHP, batting .311 against them in 2019. I know he is limited, but I love me some Leury. I'm ok with him being Mazara's platoon partner if they can't/don't find someone better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 So our boy Hector Gomez shared an article linking the possibility of Puig to the Sox. Then added to a comment from a different post about the Sox possibly adding even more to their lineup after the EE signing. It seems as though he thinks that Puig is a real possibility. I just dont know why Puig would choose the Sox situation. Maybe just wants to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, shipps said: So our boy Hector Gomez shared an article linking the possibility of Puig to the Sox. Then added to a comment from a different post about the Sox possibly adding even more to their lineup after the EE signing. It seems as though he thinks that Puig is a real possibility. I just dont know why Puig would choose the Sox situation. Maybe just wants to win? Puig is likely facing a pretty limited market. His best chance of regular at bats would be to join a rebuilding club on a cheap one year deal and try to hit the market again next offseason? If Puig is willing to come on a cheap one year deal? Sure, but there's not a clear path to playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I mean if you get Puig I'd just rest Mazara on the bench. I don't know how the White Sox plan on fixing Mazara's lack of interest. DRS is also fairly kind to Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, tray said: The Sox are gambling on Mazara turning things around. The Rangers were not able to get him to stop chasing balls out of the zone and grounding out. Grounding into inning killing double plays could get old after a while, especially on a Sox team where RBI guys are up and down the line-up. I hope the Sox get Castellanos if he could be signed to a 3 year deal for 45-50 with an option for a 4th year. Mazara can be a 4th outfielder leaving Engel as the odd man out. You'd need an outfielder who can be a defensive replacement if your corner outfielders are Eloy, Mazara and Castellanos. You'd have to keep Engel somehow to go in the game to protect a lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, Baron said: I mean if you get Puig I'd just rest Mazara on the bench. I don't know how the White Sox plan on fixing Mazara's lack of interest. DRS is also fairly kind to Puig. I don’t think lack of interest describes Mazara at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: I don’t think lack of interest describes Mazara at all. Mazara might benefit greatly from our clubhouse. Seems like he'd fit right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: I don’t think lack of interest describes Mazara at all. Isn't that what Evan Grant the Texas Rangers beat writer said right when the trade was happening? They said he lost interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baron said: Isn't that what Evan Grant the Texas Rangers beat writer said right when the trade was happening? They said he lost interest. He said he didn't buy into what the Rangers were telling him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baron said: Isn't that what Evan Grant the Texas Rangers beat writer said right when the trade was happening? They said he lost interest. I thought it was more about him buying into the changes they were trying to incorporate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, DirtySox said: I thought it was more about him buying into the changes they were trying to incorporate. Ah that may be. Was trying to find it again to listen to it. Either way that's not exactly a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, Baron said: Ah that may be. Was trying to find it again to listen to it. Either way that's not exactly a good thing. Being change averse is a hell of a lot better than just not giving a shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: Being change averse is a hell of a lot better than just not giving a shit. Being against change is one thing. Running around on the baseball field doing the same old shit and plugging your ears is another. None of that's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Baron said: Being against change is one thing. Running around on the baseball field doing the same old shit and plugging your ears is another. None of that's good. I don't think this is true because he did change his stance in the 2nd half of last season. There was a video on MLBN with it too. He slugged 541 I believe in the 2nd half by quieting his hands, less movement in his stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: Being change averse is a hell of a lot better than just not giving a shit. Right and Mazara has to realize sooner or later that something with him has to change to reach his vast potential or he will always be THAT guy with huge talent like Avi who bounces around once he starts getting too expensive to keep for average or below average production from a corner OF. The question is what was TX selling that Mazara wasn't buying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) when Mazara was acquired I doubt they knew the OF market would turn out so weak. Looking back I doubt they'd redo the Mazara (due ~$5.7m in 2020) trade considering Avi only got 20/2. Mazara should be considered a pet project and if a better player (Puig) is available for cheap you get him. This still allows for a solid cheap 4th OF signing too. Edited December 26, 2019 by scotty22hotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Puig is barely a better player at this point than Mazara and comes with serious red flags in the clubhouse, one of a few guys in MLB I'd label a real distraction. No chance they bring him in, no room on the roster, no upside long or short term, and possible clubhouse problems on top of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I’d rather take a chance on Zobrist as interim 2B and then versatile bench piece who can play RF against LHP and fill in a little at 2B against tough righties. Puig is just such a douchebag and not worth the risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I'm probably one of the few but I enjoy Puig's weird antics...that said, I don't think he's really the best fit with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rowand44 said: I'm probably one of the few but I enjoy Puig's weird antics...that said, I don't think he's really the best fit with this team. I enjoy his antics too. Between him and Anderson, teams would hate us haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Baron said: Being against change is one thing. Running around on the baseball field doing the same old shit and plugging your ears is another. None of that's good. They said he worked hard to prepare for the game but wasn’t doing what he needed to do to for the season. Texas had all these powerful, athletic intl signings and none planned out as expected. Maybe they were bad teachers. Sometimes guys think they are following instructions when they aren’t. Sox might not be the best player dev team in the world, but maybe hearing the same thing differently might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, GGajewski18 said: I enjoy his antics too. Between him and Anderson, teams would hate us haha. Difference between the two is that TA is beloved by his team mates and Puig is tolerated at best. Serious rumblings about Puig being as prickly towards his own team as the opposition the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Difference between the two is that TA is beloved by his team mates and Puig is tolerated at best. Serious rumblings about Puig being as prickly towards his own team as the opposition the last few years. Would love to see the articles on this accusation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, GGajewski18 said: Would love to see the articles on this accusation Have. Some. Articles. Imagine this happening this fall in Chicago and it helps cost the Sox a championship: Quote The baseball had sizzled down the line, and “I don’t remember looking at it like, ‘Oh, that’s a ball that should have been caught,’” said Brandon Morrow, the Dodgers pitcher at the time. But Morrow never studied the replay. Hours later — after Bregman scored, the Dodgers blew a lead and forfeited control of the series to the Astros — several members of the organization did. The footage revealed issues the team had spent years trying to correct. Puig wasn’t ready for the pitch and got a late jump. He was out of position, shaded too far toward center field. He often ignored the positioning card distributed to Dodgers defenders before games; according to six people familiar with the situation, he on several occasions ripped up the card in front of outfield coach George Lombard and left the pieces on the ground. In the eyes of Dodgers officials, Puig was unprepared at a time when negligence might mean the difference between a title and heartbreak. “There were always things like that,” manager Dave Roberts said one day this spring. “Taking plays off.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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