Moan4Yoan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Baron said: I'd rather have Mazara in RF everyday than sharing with Castellanos Unless you cite monetary factors as a reason, you’re crazy. Edited December 26, 2019 by Moan4Yoan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, Moan4Yoan said: Unless you cite monetary factors as a reason, you’re crazy. I like defense. That's my reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I was literally about to post this. I still think the Sox have interest in Castellanos and my guess is we have something like 3/$48M on the table while Boras / Nick are holding out for a number closer to 4/$80M. At $60-65 million, you really think the White Sox would bite? It would have to be four years as well. I would guess that Puig and his agent are really pushing for him to join his countrymen in Chicago, and he’s willing to sacrifice money for one season to get that unique opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: Do you think putting his locker in between Abreu’s and Grandal’s could serve to adjust his attitude some? Maybe the Sox’ clubhouse could be the best one for him at this point. I could see it. He'd be around more of his countrymen than any point in his career. And then you have Encarnacion who is the oldest and another vet. Not saying I'd take the risk but it would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, Baron said: I like defense. That's my reason. And Mazara isn’t good at it either so that’s not a great reason to sacrifice a better bat. Do we even know if Castellanos is far worse than Mazara in RF defensively? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said: And Mazara isn’t good at it either so that’s not a great reason to sacrifice a better bat. Do we even know if Castellanos is far worse than Mazara in RF defensively? Yes. DRS he was -9 last year and -19 in 2018. URZ he's -4.9 and -12.3 in 2018. He's -12.6 in defensive WAR. He's a butcher. Edited December 26, 2019 by Baron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: At $60-65 million, you really think the White Sox would bite? It would have to be four years as well. I would guess that Puig and his agent are really pushing for him to join his countrymen in Chicago, and he’s willing to sacrifice money for one season to get that unique opportunity. Why would any player’s agent push their client to take less money, just to join his countrymen? Typically, the more money the player gets, the more money the agent gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I was literally about to post this. I still think the Sox have interest in Castellanos and my guess is we have something like 3/$48M on the table while Boras / Nick are holding out for the Cubs to come anywhere remotely near that. Unfortunately, I think my edit above of your post is probably closer to the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, RTC said: Unfortunately, I think my edit above of your post is probably closer to the truth. The Cubs have zero money to work with right now. They’d have to move Bryant in order to add Castellanos and I really don’t see that happening for a while given the grievance if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Cubs have zero money to work with right now. They’d have to move Bryant in order to add Castellanos and I really don’t see that happening for a while given the grievance if at all. I actually buy the Nick/Cubs rumor. Giants don’t seem confident they get him and Reds are looking elsewhere. Might be a Rangers/Cubs battle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Cubs have zero money to work with right now. They’d have to move Bryant in order to add Castellanos and I really don’t see that happening for a while given the grievance if at all. Totally agree. I just think NC/Boras are waiting as long as they can to see if the Cubs free up some cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Cubs have zero money to work with right now. They’d have to move Bryant in order to add Castellanos and I really don’t see that happening for a while given the grievance if at all. True, and oh so fun to watch as they get screwed by the delayed Bryant grievance decision. They are also going to lose out on their number one free agent target this offseason to the Reds — 32 year old CF Shogo Akiyama. Pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbs1969 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 No the Sox aren’t looking for a long deal right now. Castellanos still wants a multi year deal. Unless he does a one year deal it’s not happening. So who could it be? The worry about JDM was the opt out. It’s not a big deal now in fact it’s preferred. So it’s a good take to think the Puig thing is a leverage play but not for Castellanos - just remember that Hahn is disciplined and has executed it well so far. Next 48-72 hours should be big. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said: No the Sox aren’t looking for a long deal right now. Castellanos still wants a multi year deal. Unless he does a one year deal it’s not happening. So who could it be? The worry about JDM was the opt out. It’s not a big deal now in fact it’s preferred. So it’s a good take to think the Puig thing is a leverage play but not for Castellanos - just remember that Hahn is disciplined and has executed it well so far. Next 48-72 hours should be big. You forgot to post eyeballs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Bullpen is my choice to tidy up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said: No the Sox aren’t looking for a long deal right now. Castellanos still wants a multi year deal. Unless he does a one year deal it’s not happening. So who could it be? The worry about JDM was the opt out. It’s not a big deal now in fact it’s preferred. So it’s a good take to think the Puig thing is a leverage play but not for Castellanos - just remember that Hahn is disciplined and has executed it well so far. Next 48-72 hours should be big. So Sunday is D-day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, kwolf68 said: Bullpen is my choice to tidy up now. They'll have plenty of money and options if they sign Puig first. There is no issue here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said: No the Sox aren’t looking for a long deal right now. Castellanos still wants a multi year deal. Unless he does a one year deal it’s not happening. So who could it be? The worry about JDM was the opt out. It’s not a big deal now in fact it’s preferred. So it’s a good take to think the Puig thing is a leverage play but not for Castellanos - just remember that Hahn is disciplined and has executed it well so far. Next 48-72 hours should be big. JDM is not an option with EE in the fold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, GGajewski18 said: They'll have plenty of money and options if they sign Puig first. There is no issue here. Where do you see their salary? I thought Betences would have been a heck of a pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, kwolf68 said: Where do you see their salary? I thought Betences would have been a heck of a pickup. They're at 87 million before arbitration. Probably around 117 after it. Puig and a reliever will get you to 130-135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Now that Betances is off the board, there’s Will Harris and Collin McHugh. Most of the other reliever options are either old, fluky, or bad. I think Hahn will nab one good reliever and sign some of the other guys to minor league flier deals. Edited December 27, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mbs1969 said: No the Sox aren’t looking for a long deal right now. Castellanos still wants a multi year deal. Unless he does a one year deal it’s not happening. So who could it be? The worry about JDM was the opt out. It’s not a big deal now in fact it’s preferred. So it’s a good take to think the Puig thing is a leverage play but not for Castellanos - just remember that Hahn is disciplined and has executed it well so far. Next 48-72 hours should be big. It’s absolutely possible that the Sox have leaked the Puig interest to the media as a diversion. Remains to be seen how this plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said: Now that Betances is off the board, there’s Will Smith and Collin McHugh. Most of the other reliever options are either old, fluky, or bad. I think Hahn will nab one good reliever and sign some of the other guys to minor league flier deals. Smith already signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbs1969 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, DirtySox said: You forgot to post eyeballs. Not sure what this meant. Sorry not that guy. Gave an educated opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Got an MLB At Bat alert about Puig interest, so here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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