BackDoorBreach Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Red Sox won a World Series w Betts leading off He had 32 HR Springer had 34 in 2017 and 40 something this year. Also Acuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Red Sox won a World Series w Betts leading off He had 32 HR And they only lead off once each game. 75%+ of their other ABs have the chance of someone being on before said home run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCCWS said: Red Sox won a World Series w Betts leading off He had 32 HR Yes, but remember that was Betts breakout year. The year before that,2017,he hit .264 with 26 sb and even then was a better than average leadoff hitter. So Boston went into 2018 thinking he would do more like 2017, but he exploded and they just left him as the leadoff hitter. Now they have him bat 2nd with the rise of Devers. Edited December 30, 2019 by Chisox378 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SouthWallace said: And they only lead off once each game. 75%+ of their other ABs have the chance of someone being on before said home run. To be fair, they are also batting after the 8 and 9 hitters, and in the NL, the pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsox17 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Best option, in my opinion, is Moncada. However, I think that won't work due to his struggles in '18 with being too selective. Robert is not the answer. He needs to be a producer in the middle-to-bottom of the order. What about Grandal? Might seem nuts, but the dude gets on base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/29/2019 at 7:47 AM, Capital G said: But I think RR will shuffle this around. Just imagine how many times that Robert/Madrigal will bunt this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinski Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/buying-generic-plate-appearances-by-lineup-spot/ this was designed as a post about fantasy baseball, but you can see what I’m saying using the stats in it. The first batter by the end of the season gets over 100 more at bats per season than the 8th place in the line up. That has to be taken into account in line up construction over speed. the real question is who do you want to get the most at bats in your line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, tdsox17 said: Best option, in my opinion, is Moncada. However, I think that won't work due to his struggles in '18 with being too selective. Don't want a guy who is on record saying he hates leading off to lead off. Moncada himself said he likes to see what the opposing pitcher throws so he can better prepare in his ABs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Colinski said: https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/buying-generic-plate-appearances-by-lineup-spot/ this was designed as a post about fantasy baseball, but you can see what I’m saying using the stats in it. The first batter by the end of the season gets over 100 more at bats per season than the 8th place in the line up. That has to be taken into account in line up construction over speed. the real question is who do you want to get the most at bats in your line up. What I want to do is get on the board first and put pressure on the other team to come back. I want the lead heading into the 6th and 7th so we can give it to the pen to close em down. I would much prefer the HR hitter like Eloy hitting a home run in the 1st inning with Madrigal and Moncada on base rather than leading Eloy off and getting a solo HR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinski Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: What I want to do is get on the board first and put pressure on the other team to come back. I want the lead heading into the 6th and 7th so we can give it to the pen to close em down. I would much prefer the HR hitter like Eloy hitting a home run in the 1st inning with Madrigal and Moncada on base rather than leading Eloy off and getting a solo HR. I wouldn’t go as far as having Eloy lead off. But defo would have Robert there over Madrigal or Grandal over Leury Garcia for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Don't want a guy who is on record saying he hates leading off to lead off. Moncada himself said he likes to see what the opposing pitcher throws so he can better prepare in his ABs. I would think that batting him 6th isn't the worst idea. Robert Madrigal Abreu Encarnacion Jimenez Moncada Mazara Grandal Anderson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The batting champ hitting 9th and a suspect who has never had a big league at bat hitting 2nd. Good lord people. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, knightni said: I would think that batting him 5th isn't the worst idea. I am not having my best player hit 5th in the batting order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Whoever plays 2B will Lead-off. Possibly the same lead-off as last year: Leury Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, knightni said: I would think that batting him 5th isn't the worst idea. Robert Madrigal Abreu Encarnacion Jimenez Moncada Mazara Grandal Anderson yuck on many levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Whoever plays 2B will Lead-off. Possibly the same lead-off as last year: Leury Garcia. To open the year, it very well could be. I would go with Anderson though to start the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, knightni said: I would think that batting him 5th isn't the worst idea. Robert Madrigal Abreu Encarnacion Jimenez Moncada Mazara Grandal Anderson Not only is Moncada batting 6th and not 5th here, but the handedness goes RRRRRSLSR. The three non-RH need to be split up more evenly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The batting champ hitting 9th and a suspect who has never had a big league at bat hitting 2nd. Good lord people. The evidence was circumstantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, SoxAce said: I am not having my best player hit 5th in the batting order. The best player and hitter thus far is batting 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, SonofaRoache said: The best player and hitter thus far is batting 6th. I was quoting his post, not his lineup. I didn't even notice that until @Jose Abreu brought it up anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 If RR wants to let Robert lead off right from the start, I think he goes with something like this: Robert Moncada Abreu Grandal Eloy Encarnacion Anderson Mazara Madrigal If not, I think he just switches Robert and Anderson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1. Robert CF 2. Moncada 3B 3. Jimenez LF 4. Grandal C 5. Abreu 1B 6. Encarnacion DH 7. Anderson SS 8. Mazara RF 9. Madrigal 2B or 1. Madrigal 2B 2. Moncada 3B 3. Robert CF 4. Jimenez LF 5. Grandal C 6. Abreu 1B 7. Encarnacion DH 8. Anderson SS 9. Mazara RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Robert is going to be a Soriano in his prime type of leadoff hitter...40 bombs a season ish (with juiced ball FOR SURE). Having him give the team the lead in 12-18 games a season is such a huge thing for a young pitching staff. With opposing starters wanting to establish their fastball...he is going to CRUSH some cookies. #2 spot is the one that is most interesting to me. TA, Yoan or Grandal all would be interesting, but I lean towards Yoan. Robert, Moncada, Abreu, Grandal, Eloy, Encarnacion is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: 1. Robert CF 2. Moncada 3B 3. Jimenez LF 4. Grandal C 5. Abreu 1B 6. Encarnacion DH 7. Anderson SS 8. Mazara RF 9. Madrigal 2B or 1. Madrigal 2B 2. Moncada 3B 3. Robert CF 4. Jimenez LF 5. Grandal C 6. Abreu 1B 7. Encarnacion DH 8. Anderson SS 9. Mazara RF C'mon, you know damn well Abreu is never leaving the 3 spot under Renteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: I was quoting his post, not his lineup. I didn't even notice that until @Jose Abreu brought it up anyways. Let's not over think this. The best hitter with great speed and power bats first. Robert. The best all around hitter/OBP guy with a little speed bats second. (Preference goes to lefty if lead off man and 3rd batter are righties) Moncada The best power bat and hit tool bats third. Jimenez Good hitter/high OBP with power hits cleanup. (Preference given to player that helps keep handedness balanced) Grandal After these four, EE and Abreu can go next. Then Mazara to keep balance, Timmy, and then Magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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