mqr Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Having the White Sox be the talk of baseball on nearly a weekly basis has been quite fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:38 PM, steveno89 said: I understand a bit of fangraphs restraint with Robert. He does not walk much, and there are some swing and miss concerns. Lewis Brinson busting I'm sure gives them pause. That said Robert is extremely talented and just as easily could break out at the MLB level in 2020. Superstar upside for sure. Expand There are so many ways in which Brinson and Robert are nothing alike though; which is why I hate how lazy the comp is. Also, every single player in the big leagues will have a "comp" that ended up being a bust. To compare the two, let's just start with their MiLB iso's. Brinson' best season had ISO's of 236 and 231. Robert had an ISO of 296 between three levels last year. Robert's wRC+ was 20 points higher than Brinson best year. Robert was the best player in MiLB last year; Brinson never held that title. The ONLY place they are similar is in their K/BB. It's a lazy comp. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:38 PM, Chisox378 said: Luis Robert has a really good swing. Its short and compact, no high leg kick. Seems like there is a problem with handling breaking balls and sometimes swings at balls out of the zone. Hopefully he gets better with time. Hope he can improve on his K to W, last year in the minors he had a total of 129 ks to only 28 bb. Has good power potential and good speed and most importantly gets alot of hits. Sox are getting more interesting and exciting by the day. Expand Oh suddenly he's not too raw for the majors for you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Roberts exit velos are very interesting. He had a 90 mph avg which is good but not elite. He hit 45% 95+ mph which is also good but not elite and 15% 105+ mph which is elite. This tells me he has to make a little more consistent hard contact because when he does he hits the everlovin shit out of it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:17 PM, mqr said: apropos of little. Just thought this was interesting. Expand The Yelich Ozuna Stanton OF could actually be a pretty good comp if things go well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:44 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There are so many ways in which Brinson and Robert are nothing alike though; which is why I hate how lazy the comp is. Also, every single player in the big leagues will have a "comp" that ended up being a bust. To compare the two, let's just start with their MiLB iso's. Brinson' best season had ISO's of 236 and 231. Robert had an ISO of 296 between three levels last year. Robert's wRC+ was 20 points higher than Brinson best year. Robert was the best player in MiLB last year; Brinson never held that title. The ONLY place they are similar is in their K/BB. It's a lazy comp. Expand The lack of walks and strikeout rate are partially what holds me back from saying Robert is a sure fire star in the making. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/wander-franco/sa3007033/stats?position=SS A guy like Wander Franco, posting that BB% and K% rate at his age against high A totally indicates a flat out elite future bat. I'm not comparing the two directly, but I'd like to see Robert draw a few more walks and cut down a little on the K's. Overall he should be dynamic in our lineup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:44 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There are so many ways in which Brinson and Robert are nothing alike though; which is why I hate how lazy the comp is. Also, every single player in the big leagues will have a "comp" that ended up being a bust. To compare the two, let's just start with their MiLB iso's. Brinson' best season had ISO's of 236 and 231. Robert had an ISO of 296 between three levels last year. Robert's wRC+ was 20 points higher than Brinson best year. Robert was the best player in MiLB last year; Brinson never held that title. The ONLY place they are similar is in their K/BB. It's a lazy comp. Expand Don't forget that Brinson's best season was also in Colorado Springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Hopefully the culture they're building will influence Moncada to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:47 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: Roberts exit velos are very interesting. He had a 90 mph avg which is good but not elite. He hit 45% 95+ mph which is also good but not elite and 15% 105+ mph which is elite. This tells me he has to make a little more consistent hard contact because when he does he hits the everlovin shit out of it. Expand Wasn't he battling the thumb sprain for the first couple months? Could explain some of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Idk if it's intentional, but signing an 88 million dollar deal and then choosing to wear no 88 is the most baller thing imaginable. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:36 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: ZZZZZZ; there stubbornness with Luis Robert is just ludicrous at this point. Expand Is he implying that Robert may not be good defensively in CF? I'm not going to say I watched a ton of his games but from everyone else, they say he can absolutely play great D. On 1/2/2020 at 7:37 PM, fathom said: I love that kids around Chicago will start picking that for Little League. 74 was hugely popular last year. Expand Damn, when I played LL we got a number between 1-15 and it went from smallest size top getting 1 to biggest getting 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:48 PM, steveno89 said: The lack of walks and strikeout rate are partially what holds me back from saying Robert is a sure fire star in the making. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/wander-franco/sa3007033/stats?position=SS A guy like Wander Franco, posting that BB% and K% rate at his age against high A totally indicates a flat out elite future bat. I'm not comparing the two directly, but I'd like to see Robert draw a few more walks and cut down a little on the K's. Overall he should be dynamic in our lineup! Expand Yeah, but the issue with a guy like Robert is he had absolutely zero reason to change his approach. He was so dominant. Once he struggles a bit he may adjust quickly - hes clearly talented enough. Also, K/BB numbers dont correlate great from A ball to MLB. Franco is awesome and discipline matters but it's simply a skill that doesnt always transfer as you move up. You need to be able to hit the ball with authority in the big leagues to get the most out of good plate discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kalapse Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:38 PM, Chisox378 said: Luis Robert has a really good swing. Its short and compact, no high leg kick. Seems like there is a problem with handling breaking balls and sometimes swings at balls out of the zone. Hopefully he gets better with time. Hope he can improve on his K to W, last year in the minors he had a total of 129 ks to only 28 bb. Has good power potential and good speed and most importantly gets alot of hits. Sox are getting more interesting and exciting by the day. Expand It is funny that your grandson taught you about K:BB ratio a few months ago and it launched you into this obsession with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Really pleased watching my White Sox operate this offseason! Excited about 2020 and can't wait for the season to begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:47 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: Roberts exit velos are very interesting. He had a 90 mph avg which is good but not elite. He hit 45% 95+ mph which is also good but not elite and 15% 105+ mph which is elite. This tells me he has to make a little more consistent hard contact because when he does he hits the everlovin shit out of it. Expand Yeah, I think this is related to the fact that he doesnt really know which pitches to target quite yet. When he guesses right and squares it up he's an absolute monster. When he doesnt pick the right pitch with his aggressive approach he induces himself into softer contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Not that it really matters, but I can’t believe Tayron Guerrero was DFAed instead of Dylan Covey. It’s unbelievable how long of a leash Covey has had considering how terrible he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 1/2/2020 at 7:51 PM, soxfan49 said: Is he implying that Robert may not be good defensively in CF? I'm not going to say I watched a ton of his games but from everyone else, they say he can absolutely play great D. Damn, when I played LL we got a number between 1-15 and it went from smallest size top getting 1 to biggest getting 15. Expand Right now Robert is a freak defensively. The concern is he's absolutely massive so people think he'll eventually size his way out of CF. Hes big and bulky but fast as all hell. Not something to worry about today though. Edited January 2, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:51 PM, mqr said: Idk if it's intentional, but signing an 88 million dollar deal and then choosing to wear no 88 is the most baller thing imaginable. Expand Sidney Crosby did it first. He was born on 8/7/87 wears #87 and has a 8.787 AAV on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) #88 Edited January 2, 2020 by SouthWallace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:54 PM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Not that it really matters, but I can’t believe Tayron Guerrero was DFAed instead of Dylan Covey. It’s unbelievable how long of a leash Covey has had considering how terrible he is. Expand He's better than Tayron Guerrero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Love the guys taking non-traditional Uni #s. I read an article on Robert and found that the origin of his "La Pantera" nickname is from Moncada. Edited January 2, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 James getting some love from Passan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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