hi8is Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Moan4Yoan said: A good young Sox roster will unite us all... ... until Ricky’s first boneheaded managerial decision, of course. Bunt Edwin!! Bunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jose Abreu Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 6:06 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I’d say 100% Grandal, Moncada, Giolito, & Jimenez make it. Anderson, Robert, & Abreu would be maybes. They did CF and LF tonight and both Robert and Eloy missed it. The White Sox never really get represented on these. Based on their criteria, I still would be pleasantly surprised if Moncada makes it even though I think he easily is top 10 at his position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: They did CF and LF tonight and both Robert and Eloy missed it. The White Sox never really get represented on these. Based on their criteria, I still would be pleasantly surprised if Moncada makes it even though I think he easily is top 10 at his position I don’t think Robert qualified, and they base “the shredder” on the last two years, so that probably held Eloy back. Moncada will make the shredder list, and I’m sure the panelists will have him on their lists too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, flavum said: I don’t think Robert qualified, and they base “the shredder” on the last two years, so that probably held Eloy back. Moncada will make the shredder list, and I’m sure the panelists will have him on their lists too. I was replying to that poster’s comment on Robert. And re: Moncada, I’m not confident that the shredder will include him depending on how much it weighs 2018. Between Arenado, Chapman, Ramirez, Bregman, Rendon, Turner, Machado, Devers, Donaldson, Bryant, and Suarez, it’s not hard to see a scenario in which he gets snubbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I was replying to that poster’s comment on Robert. And re: Moncada, I’m not confident that the shredder will include him depending on how much it weighs 2018. Between Arenado, Chapman, Ramirez, Bregman, Rendon, Turner, Machado, Devers, Donaldson, Bryant, and Suarez, it’s not hard to see a scenario in which he gets snubbed Now that I see that, wow 3b is loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtheballdown Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Moncada is one of the top ten players in baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: They did CF and LF tonight and both Robert and Eloy missed it. The White Sox never really get represented on these. Based on their criteria, I still would be pleasantly surprised if Moncada makes it even though I think he easily is top 10 at his position Jimenez missed it? Wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jimenez missed it? Wow... Yeah, but I think he's gonna have a better year than half of the guys who made it 2 hours ago, runtheballdown said: Moncada is one of the top ten players in baseball I actually agree with this if you're strictly talking about position players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Yeah, but I think he's gonna have a better year than half of the guys who made it I actually agree with this if you're strictly talking about position players I would wager large sums of money that Jimenez is a top 10 LF next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Reynolds from the Pirates at #3 after his rookie season is a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Schwarber is going to play for 12 years and total like 16 WAR and somehow always be considered good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 11:15 PM, bschmaranz said: They asked the guys on MLB Now to make their LF lists. Mike Lowell had Eloy #9, Marc Craig from The Athletic had him #6. Mike Petriello had Eloy #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 19 hours ago, runtheballdown said: Moncada is one of the top ten players in baseball Too much love. Maybe top 25 or so....Bregman, Soto, Bellinger, Acuna, Yelich, Trout, Rendon, Altuve, Betts, Lindor off top of my head. Can probably rattle off another 10 or so w/o too much arguement and another 10 we can quibble over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Jerksticks said: Schwarber is going to play for 12 years and total like 16 WAR and somehow always be considered good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Flash said: Too much love. Maybe top 25 or so....Bregman, Soto, Bellinger, Acuna, Yelich, Trout, Rendon, Altuve, Betts, Lindor off top of my head. Can probably rattle off another 10 or so w/o too much arguement and another 10 we can quibble over. Moncada was better than half of those guys last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: Moncada was better than half of those guys last year Based on? You can also throw in Semien, Marte, Bogaertz, Springer, Chapman, Devers, Story, Arenado. You can look up their WAR #s as easily as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, Flash said: Based on? You can also throw in Semien, Marte, Bogaertz, Springer, Chapman, Devers, Story, Arenado. You can look up their WAR #s as easily as me. Out of the players in your first post, I'd take 2019 Moncada over Soto, Acuna, Altuve, and Lindor based on various factors. but primarily fWAR and wRC+. As for the players in your recent post, many of them had a higher WAR than Moncada, but a smaller WAR/162. In other words, Moncada's missed games due to injury were the main reason he was not as valuable as they were, therefore, I'm still comfortable saying he's a better player than them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Part of the fun is disagreeing and while I don't like arguing against our guys, give me Acuna and Soto all day. Between Chapman, Arenado, Devers, Bregman and Rendon, Its hard to argue Moncada is top 5 at his position (not to mention Bryant, Donaldson, Machado, Ramirez, Suarez, et al although the argument can be made for any of them). I suppose if we extrapolate over 162 games, you'd probably have to throw Tatis Jr., Gleybar Torres, Javy Baez into the mix. Plenty of strong players and while Moncada is a talent, I don't think he is top 10 but, like I said, disagreeing is part of the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Flash said: Part of the fun is disagreeing and while I don't like arguing against our guys, give me Acuna and Soto all day. Between Chapman, Arenado, Devers, Bregman and Rendon, Its hard to argue Moncada is top 5 at his position (not to mention Bryant, Donaldson, Machado, Ramirez, Suarez, et al although the argument can be made for any of them). I suppose if we extrapolate over 162 games, you'd probably have to throw Tatis Jr., Gleybar Torres, Javy Baez into the mix. Plenty of strong players and while Moncada is a talent, I don't think he is top 10 but, like I said, disagreeing is part of the fun. Jose Ramirez? Not based on last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 4:32 PM, aeichhor said: Anyone else find it odd that the Yankees have 2 of the best center fielders? What's up with that ? You could argue neither one belongs on the list. Neither one played over 100 games in CF last year and the last time Gardner did was 2013. IS CF so devoid of talent that either should have been listed ? Hicks only played 58 games in CF last year due to injury and had a good season there in 2018 and another good season in 2017 but in only 52 games in CF. Basically neither one has done much in CF . Maybe the Shredder needs to define how many games played in CF in the last few years you need to be qualified, I guess being a Yankee automatically qualifies you. What a crock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 6:32 PM, aeichhor said: Gosh I can't believe Laureno was traded for peanuts just 2 years ago. He was a guy I always wanted badly from the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Gosh I can't believe Laureno was traded for peanuts just 2 years ago. He was a guy I always wanted badly from the Astros. And this is why while in a rebuild guys with huge tools coming off a great season who play a premium position very well followed by a poor one in the minors should always be targeted. He had a monster season in A+ and AA in 2016 followed up by a terrible 2017 in AA. Of course Oakland does this kind of thing all the time as does Tampa Bay. The Sox ? Hmmm not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guys Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 The Shredder's list is based heavily off of war from the previous two seasons and projections for the upcoming season. Grandal will obviously be a lock for a top spot. Abreu will most likely make the list due to limited competition at his position even though he was injured for a portion of 2018. He also has made the list the past 3 seasons. Moncado should make the list but might not make it due to his struggles in 2018. Tim Anderson is in a similar perdicament even though he won the batting title in 2019. Giolito will also be hurt by his 2018 performance and there's some stiff competition to make any top 10 starting pitcher list. Eloy just missed the list. Robert and Madrigal could be there in future seasons. I think Colome and McCann have a chance but will both fall outside the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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