HOFHurt35 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, flavum said: Hawk fired LaRussa in mid-1986. OK, I forgot that was a mid season firing. I know he managed the A's in '86 at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I mean where does everyone think Jeff Luhnow learned everything? This. Is. A. Fantastic. Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, HOFHurt35 said: OK, I forgot that was a mid season firing. I know he managed the A's in '86 at some point. Yes, the A’s almost immediately hired him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Ahh, you're right. He was drafted in 84 and 87. Regardless, he was on the team like 6 months after LaRussa left. You're acting like he had no communication with the players that played with LaRussa. I'm not acting about anything. McDowell is talking as if he was full witness of the cheating, he was't even there. Going by pure hearsay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 LaRussa also said he would be willing to deliberately forfeit games during the 1981 split season if it would help another team win both halves but put the Sox in the playoff as the wildcard. It wasn't cheating per se but showed he was willing to game the system, even if not in the spirit of authentic competion. SFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I mean where does everyone think Jeff Luhnow learned everything? Yeah, if true, no way he didn't take this with him to StL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Also, this tells me all the people getting all sanctimonious and shitting all over the astros are in for a rough couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I thought the Sox doing that kind of stuff in the 80‘s was common knowledge, I heard about it decades ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: I'm not acting about anything. McDowell is talking as if he was full witness of the cheating, he was't even there. Going by pure hearsay. No, he didn't talk like that. I'm pretty sure he is assuming his teammates who told him this wouldn't make up something like that out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: That was a whole lot of sucking in the late 80s while knowing what pitches were coming. Yikes. Was just gonna say the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 this made me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 But McDowell never played for larussa.....larussa was gone in 86. Jack came up late 87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Quote Yet he's still in the game making half a million. lmao what a salty b**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, scotty22hotty said: lmao what a salty b**** How is he salty? Because he doesn't like to see cheaters prospering off the game they are cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: How is he salty? Because he doesn't like to see cheaters prospering off the game they are cheating? McDowell is very bitter toward MLB for the way he perceives he was treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 These stories could go on for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I will say, I have no idea what camera's were good enough in the 1980's to zoom in from the outfield stands into the fingers of a catcher... But I don't know why Jack would make this up; well, he does hate LaRussa but still. Odds are this is true, and makes me even happier that we fired this ass hat. First of all, LaRussa wasn't here in the late 80's. He was fired halfway through 1986. Before McDowell was up.....He didn't come up until 1987 after LaRussa was gone. So he never played for LaRussa. McDowell's memory sounds like it's playing tricks on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 lol teams needed to steal signs to hit steve trouts 45 mph fastballs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, bmags said: lol teams needed to steal signs to hit steve trouts 45 mph fastballs Nice catch by Harold at 3:20. Hall of Famer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: How is he salty? Because he doesn't like to see cheaters prospering off the game they are cheating? How can you ask how he is salty? He was not part of the organization during the time in which he is speaking so he has second hand knowledge and is speaking as if he was part of the process. It would be somewhat credible if he was int eh organization when this happened or explained how it was handed down from LaRussa to the organization and carried forward to his time. He is failing to tell this part of the story which is pretty important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: How can you ask how he is salty? He was not part of the organization during the time in which he is speaking so he has second hand knowledge and is speaking as if he was part of the process. It would be somewhat credible if he was int eh organization when this happened or explained how it was handed down from LaRussa to the organization and carried forward to his time. He is failing to tell this part of the story which is pretty important. What? The 1986 and 1987 rosters shared like 90% of the roster. McDowell was teammates with those players. Clearly from his time with the team and organization, and with those players, he learned this and is stating it. I have no idea why anyone thinks that because he didn't play that exact year that he could have no idea what was going on. Edited January 17, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I hate that my team is involved in this in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, chetkincaid said: I hate that my team is involved in this in any way. This is not a big deal for the Sox at all. It looks worse for LaRussa. If they were trying to use those low-def cameras back in the day to cheat, no wonder they sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: I hate that my team is involved in this in any way. Aaron Rowand probably used roids and I don't care one bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, flavum said: Nice catch by Harold at 3:20. Hall of Famer! Damn Trout got and threw it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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