caulfield12 Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tony said: Come on guys, that’s not fair. Didn’t you read what he said? Just use common sense. That’s what the Trump Presidency is all about…........................................................................................................................,..........................common sense......................................... Long live Thomas Paine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bmags said: Caulfield gonna blow your mind on this one - in America people hire individuals to come to their house and pay them hourly to watch their kids. They even do it with kids as young as 13 to come and watch their kids, and pay them $12-$18/hr. There was even a documentary on it: https://youtu.be/zBmEySbwGsk LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: My proposed Idea is to let people drive drunk. But Betsy Devos has presented the perfect option of having drunk driving choice, so if you are willing to drive drunk, do it. And if not, use a different option you find appropriate. Common sense. Be American, do what's best for your family and don't oppress others with communist democrat ideas. I've seen this comparison made a few times on here, I don't think its a great comparison. I think you could say it like this.... The option is like driving in icy road conditions. You are putting yourself and others on the road at risk that you might crash into them or vice versa. Anyone who gets in their car is taking a risk, but you aren't putting others at risk who are trying to play it safe and stayed home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bmags said: Caulfield gonna blow your mind on this one - in America people hire individuals to come to their house and pay them hourly to watch their kids. They even do it with kids as young as 13 to come and watch their kids, and pay them $12-$18/hr. There was even a documentary on it: https://youtu.be/zBmEySbwGsk do they do it as a full-time job though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Most people agree with Betsy Devos, partisanship aside. She has been a great advocate for improvement in our education system. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Markbilliards said: I've seen this comparison made a few times on here, I don't think its a great comparison. I think you could say it like this.... The option is like driving in icy road conditions. You are putting yourself and others on the road at risk that you might crash into them or vice versa. Anyone who gets in their car is taking a risk, but you aren't putting others at risk who are trying to play it safe and stayed home. The people who are playing it safe and staying home are still impacted by the larger societal and economic damage from the reckless behavior, though. The more our politicians allow reckless behavior, the deeper and longer this thing goes. The more people engage in reckless behavior, the deeper and longer this thing continues. And since nobody is 100% contact free (you still need groceries and essentials even if you're otherwise entirely shut in, or you may need medical care but oops the ICU is full), there's still increased risk of exposure. Much of the world got this epidemic under control using these nefarious "communist democrat ideas," and now their whole societies are safer and can more freely engage in normal activities, even if things are a ways from completely normal there. We have a raging uncontrolled epidemic that's once again severely taxing our medical resources and still driving over a million people to file for unemployment every single week. This isn't about individual choice, because those individual choices impact everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, turnin' two said: I have a college student cousin that is doing child care for us over the summer, the problem is, even though her classes are online next semester, the school is making the students show up on campus. I have no idea why, I assume so they have to pay room and board. That is ... weird? Maybe in person proctoring of exams ? I still think its just a sensible resource to tap. Many already have child-watching experience and connections to kids/families due to summer nanny jobs. Especially with the restrictions on au pairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: do they do it as a full-time job though Many college kids summer-nanny, but they would also be watching kids who have school and often have parents home. That's not that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hawkfan said: Most people agree with Betsy Devos, partisanship aside. She has been a great advocate for improvement in our education system. hmmm https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3666 Quote RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS Voters say more than 2 to 1, 61 - 29 percent, that they disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling the re-opening of schools. They also say 2 to 1, 62 - 31 percent, that they think it will be unsafe to send students to elementary, middle, or high school in the fall. A slightly smaller number, 59 - 34 percent, say they think it will be unsafe to send students to college in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bmags said: Many college kids summer-nanny, but they would also be watching kids who have school and often have parents home. That's not that difficult. Doing it in the summer vs. doing it with a full course load for 40+ hours a week for limited pay. Not sure how many takers you'd have. e: not saying it's a terrible idea just there's some hurdles/limitations to think about. could be helpful even if not a full measure. Edited July 16, 2020 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Hawkfan said: My proposed Idea is to send the kids back to school. But Betsy Devos has presented the perfect option of having school choice, so if you are willing to send your child to school, do it. And if not, use a different option you find appropriate. Common sense. Be American, do what's best for your family and don't oppress others with communist democrat ideas. How is protecting the safety of employees communism? So dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 The coverup continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: How is protecting the safety of employees communism? So dumb. Protecting them by forcing them to remain jobless? We're the government, and we're here to help you by making sure the only way you make money is if we provide it to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This administration couldn't care less about kids' education with going back to school. After all, these are the people who have turned their backs at science, and have no use for US intelligence, so what good is going to school to them? . It's all about the parents going back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkfan said: Protecting them by forcing them to remain jobless? We're the government, and we're here to help you by making sure the only way you make money is if we provide it to you. What? Forcing them? You know what a demand shock is? People arent going out. People arent buying things. People lose jobs because revenue is down because a virus is killing people all across the country. The economy cannot repair itself until the public health crisis is fixed. When people like you start dying, we can start moving forward as a nation who gives a fuck about people again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hawkfan said: Protecting them by forcing them to remain jobless? We're the government, and we're here to help you by making sure the only way you make money is if we provide it to you. Because of the federal response, which was slow, and then Trump thought it would be a good time to play Celebrity Apprentice-Governors edition, and pitted states against each other to increase prices and screw up the supply chain for PPE to our front lines, and have no federal response, the US is not in position like most other countries to open up, so yes, they probably should be printing more money now and handing it out to people who cannot work right now. Edited July 16, 2020 by Dick Allen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 And please look up the definition of communism. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Doing it in the summer vs. doing it with a full course load for 40+ hours a week for limited pay. Not sure how many takers you'd have. e: not saying it's a terrible idea just there's some hurdles/limitations to think about. could be helpful even if not a full measure. There are plenty of people that have jobs while they are in college. And most of those jobs don't pay very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The economy cannot repair itself until the public health crisis is fixed. When people like you start dying, we can start moving forward as a nation who gives a fuck about people again. Dude. Not sure wishing death on other people is a good way to demonstrate that you "give a fuck about people". Edited July 16, 2020 by turnin' two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hawkfan said: Protecting them by forcing them to remain jobless? We're the government, and we're here to help you by making sure the only way you make money is if we provide it to you. Yes making sure people can make ends meet while we go into a pandemic shutdown is good, actually. Many countries successfully did this. Otherwise we're left with... the position we find ourselves in today. Raging epidemic and another 1.4m unemployed the previous week, marking 17 straight weeks over 1m new jobless claims. People are also starting to tighten up a bit themselves as we can see from this like mobility data, restaurants traffic etc. The damage to the economy is inevitable, and the worse we let this epidemic get, the worse it'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) LEAST POPULAR: BETSY DEVOS,who has 28% favorable, and 40% unfavorable rating. JEFF SESSIONS: 34% (-4% net), RICK PERRY: 30% (-3% net), STEVEN MNUCHIN: 26% (-3% net), RYAN ZINKE: 22% favorable, 22% unfavorable, 22% have no opinion of him, and 34% haven’t heard of him. politico.com Can the Left really wish death on others? What’s the point? Those numbers are not even being reported anymore. It’s laughable after all the attacks on China that we’re openly operating like the worse totalitarian regimes around the world...and nobody is even slightly surprised because we’re so anesthetized to it all. Meanwhile, we will see Mulan in Wuhan movie theatres with national chains across the country opening up beginning on Monday, six months after the lockdown originally was imposed. Edited July 16, 2020 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Yes making sure people can make ends meet while we go into a pandemic shutdown is good, actually. Many countries successfully did this. Otherwise we're left with... the position we find ourselves in today. Raging epidemic and another 1.4m unemployed the previous week, marking 17 straight weeks over 1m new jobless claims. People are also starting to tighten up a bit themselves as we can see from this like mobility data, restaurants traffic etc. The damage to the economy is inevitable, and the worse we let this epidemic get, the worse it'll be. Yes, the same people who have a problem with giving people who need money, money, had no problem with the $2.3 trillion tax cut gift that benefitted the rich. It's really strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: How is protecting the safety of employees communism? So dumb. Anything to the left of full-blown fascism is communism these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It's supposed to be really hot this weekend. Maybe this is when the virus will suddenly disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What? Forcing them? You know what a demand shock is? People arent going out. People arent buying things. People lose jobs because revenue is down because a virus is killing people all across the country. The economy cannot repair itself until the public health crisis is fixed. When people like you start dying, we can start moving forward as a nation who gives a fuck about people again. Yes, there is a demand for restaurants to be open, there is a demand for schools to be open, demand for air travel, but it can't be met due to unnecessary restrictions (the uneducated would call them protections). I believe there is definitely some cause for concern when you see the Government trying to "protect" us so much. If you think them doling out money to citizens is a good thing, that's fine, but I can't believe that is a good strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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