caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, StrangeSox said: Tucked into the Senate bill, a $170B tax break giveaway to real estate developers that backdates to 2018 and 2019 losses But that's okay since none of the benefits are going to the Trump Organization, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said: Test the underprivileged and people you don’t like? Sounds like a great plan. That type of thinking is what led to this... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation This is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on the whole internet. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: While they seem fairly rare, and there hasn't been a published paper academically...it's definitely a possibility, especially if we're going with the 2-3 different strains of the virus circulating theory (which also hasn't been proven, more a theory.) So today I've seen an epidemiologist saying that this virus actually is mutating slowly enough that it makes tracking difficult since there are very few marker events that distinguish one virus from another, which would argue pretty strongly against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So today I've seen an epidemiologist saying that this virus actually is mutating slowly enough that it makes tracking difficult since there are very few marker events that distinguish one virus from another, which would argue pretty strongly against that. It was just rumors and community-wide fear, IMO. I've seen videos where families were rejecting their fathers or grandparents, for example...being sent back home by authorities after recovery. Shouting at authorities, saying they didn't believe they were actually healthy and were endangering the entire family to create more empty beds in the hospital for new patients. People put all their pets out in the beginning, as a rumor spread that dogs and cats could transmit the virus. In fact, there are a couple of supposed Covid-19 "pet deaths" in Asian countries. The government did take the step here in China of sending many of the recovered to quarantine recuperation centers (like Javits in NYC) that were essentially hotels and sports centers (badminton) quickly converted with cubicles and beds...instead of sending them home directly. There was a concern with those people mixing together with other cases not yet serious enough to be hospitalized or reporting positive tests that the spread would continue, but that didn't happen (apparently.) At the moment, seems Illinois, Detroit/MI, New Orleans/LA, and maybe Atlanta or FLA are trending to be the next huge outbreak zones. Edited March 26, 2020 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, StrangeSox said: Ah. Looks like the CDC compiles county-level data https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html Summary: The Underlying Cause of Death data available on WONDER are county-level national mortality and population data spanning the years 1999-2018. Data are based on death certificates for U.S. residents. Each death certificate identifies a single underlying cause of death and demographic data. The number of deaths, crude death rates or age-adjusted death rates, and 95% confidence intervals and standard errors for death rates can be obtained by place of residence (total U.S., region, state and county), age group (single-year-of age, 5-year age groups, 10-year age groups and infant age groups), race, Hispanic ethnicity, gender, year, cause-of-death (4-digit ICD-10 code or group of codes), injury intent and injury mechanism, drug/alcohol induced causes and urbanization categories. Data are also available for place of death, month and week day of death, and whether an autopsy was performed Makes sense because medical examiners are on a county basis. Supposedly independent. Rural areas may have coroners who are political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 https://eand.co/did-you-really-think-capitalism-was-going-to-save-you-from-a-pandemic-41b6ac1d9a41 The point is this: Americans don’t need to work during a pandemic. There is literally no reason for them to. They don’t need to be made to “work” for basics like homes, medicine, money, and food — society has a massive surplus of all these things already. They don’t need to “work” during a pandemic for a similar reason. America is easily rich enough to simply support the whole economy for a few months during the pandemic — which is the wise and right and fair and moral thing to do. Nobody needs to work. Not just because America is a rich society — but because the only “work” that really needs to be done during a pandemic is tending to the ill, feeding the indigent, making sure the disease’s spread is slowed, and so forth. The “work” that Americans are to be made to do has literally nothing to do with any of that very real labour. (Does anyone really need a new home built right about now? How about a trip to the dentist? Or a pair of new designer jeans? Maybe you see what I mean.) You know and I know the real reason Americans are being made to work during a pandemic: money. So that profits rise, so that stock markets rise, so that the rich get richer. So that, in other words, the system doesn’t collapse in on itself. A cynic might have an even darker interpretation: so that Americans know their place. So that they’re so beaten, weary, terrified, and anxious, they never really have the time or energy to question the insanity of all the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoYoIsMyHero Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I bet this is related to those comments. Small excerpt: "The initial projection, one senior administration official said, was that after three weeks of preparation it could produce an initial run of 20,000 ventilators, or about two-thirds of what Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York recently said his state alone needed to cover the influx of coronavirus patients expected in two weeks, if not sooner. That number then shrank to 7,500 ventilators in the initial run, or maybe 5,000, an apparent recognition that auto transmissions and ventilators had very little in common. Those numbers are in flux and so are the Trump administration’s because the White House cannot decide how many ventilators it wants.... The $1.5 billion price tag comes to around $18,000 a ventilator. And the overall cost, by comparison, is roughly equal to buying 18 F-35s, the Pentagon’s most advanced fighter jet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I’m going to need every therapist in the city after this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Antibody testing now trending everywhere. Results are going to be shocking for most. Probably got a week to buy back into the stock market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jerksticks said: Antibody testing now trending everywhere. Results are going to be shocking for most. Probably got a week to buy back into the stock market Okay, Larry Kudlow. Just kidding. Well, I haven’t sold anything (except last summer at DJIA 27k) for twenty years...can you tell us which day and we can just pretend it’s $100,000 or $1,000,000 for argument’s sake for easy analysis??? Fwiw, those who tried to short the market on unemployment numbers got massacred yesterday. China has ordered no short selling, period. Even with active control, we might be facing around 81,000 deaths by July according to a new detailed analysis from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle. ..... Our for-profit health care system rakes in money on disease, not on health. Instead, we have a system that works for the rich, instead of a public health system for all Americans that readily anticipates and controls new pathogens through testing, contact tracing, and quarantine. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/opinions/us-most-confirmed-cases-sachs/index.html Publication date: March 26, 2020 Assuming Strong Social Distancing, This Wave of the Pandemic Could End in the US in June SEATTLE – In a forecast based on new data analyses, researchers find demand for ventilators and beds in US hospital intensive care units (ICUs) will far exceed capacity for COVID-19 patients as early as the second week of April. Deaths related to the current wave of COVID-19 in the US are likely to persist into July, even assuming people protect themselves and their communities by strongly adhering to social distancing measures and by taking other precautions advised by public health officials. “Our estimated trajectory of COVID-19 deaths assumes continued and uninterrupted vigilance by the general public, hospital and health workers, and government agencies,” said Dr. Christopher Murray, Director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine. “The trajectory of the pandemic will change – and dramatically for the worse – if people ease up on social distancing or relax with other precautions. We encourage everyone to adhere to those precautions to help save lives.” IHME’s analysis, based on observed death rates, estimates that over the next four months in the US, approximately 81,000 people will die from the virus. Estimates range between 38,000 and 162,000 US deaths. http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-covid-19-forecasts-us-hospitals-could-be-overwhelmed-second-week-april-demand-icu Edited March 27, 2020 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publication date: March 26, 2020 Assuming Strong Social Distancing, This Wave of the Pandemic Could End in the US in June SEATTLE – In a forecast based on new data analyses, researchers find demand for ventilators and beds in US hospital intensive care units (ICUs) will far exceed capacity for COVID-19 patients as early as the second week of April. Deaths related to the current wave of COVID-19 in the US are likely to persist into July, even assuming people protect themselves and their communities by strongly adhering to social distancing measures and by taking other precautions advised by public health officials. “Our estimated trajectory of COVID-19 deaths assumes continued and uninterrupted vigilance by the general public, hospital and health workers, and government agencies,” said Dr. Christopher Murray, Director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine. “The trajectory of the pandemic will change – and dramatically for the worse – if people ease up on social distancing or relax with other precautions. We encourage everyone to adhere to those precautions to help save lives.” IHME’s analysis, based on observed death rates, estimates that over the next four months in the US, approximately 81,000 people will die from the virus. Estimates range between 38,000 and 162,000 US deaths.
pcq Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 23 hours ago, Jerksticks said: It’s definitely a lot of good and a lot of bad. i think caving to insurance companies and lining their pockets is one of the bigger bads of the whole thing Healthcare and insurance need to be bipartisan efforts and that just isn't possible in our dimwit poisoned culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 14 hours ago, bmags said: nearly 700 new cases in Illinois today. Hopefully this was with a huge increase in testing, but we are definitely in the exponential growth. Have to hope by next wednesday we start to see some stabilization. There was only 1,600 tests yesterday...a 43% positive rate. This may indicate they are rationing tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 In the emergency room at one of Madrid’s biggest hospitals, Daniel Bernabeu signed the death certificate for one patient and immediately turned to help another who was choking. People are dying in waiting rooms before they can even be admitted as the coronavirus pandemic overpowers medical staff. With some funeral services halted in the Spanish capital and no space left in the morgues, corpses are being stored at the main ice rink. Intensive-care wards overflowing and new rules dictate that older patients miss out to younger people with a better shot at surviving, Bernabeu said by telephone. “That grandpa, in any other situation, would have had a chance,” he said. “But there’s so many of them, all dying at the same time.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/spanish-doctors-forced-to-choose-who-to-let-die-from-coronavirus The Chinese press tonight is reporting they're close to making a decision that those already over age 60 or 65 are likely going to die when it comes down to these triage decisions of who to save....HOPE that's not accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: In the emergency room at one of Madrid’s biggest hospitals, Daniel Bernabeu signed the death certificate for one patient and immediately turned to help another who was choking. People are dying in waiting rooms before they can even be admitted as the coronavirus pandemic overpowers medical staff. With some funeral services halted in the Spanish capital and no space left in the morgues, corpses are being stored at the main ice rink. Intensive-care wards overflowing and new rules dictate that older patients miss out to younger people with a better shot at surviving, Bernabeu said by telephone. “That grandpa, in any other situation, would have had a chance,” he said. “But there’s so many of them, all dying at the same time.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/spanish-doctors-forced-to-choose-who-to-let-die-from-coronavirus The Chinese press tonight is reporting they're close to making a decision that those already over age 60 or 65 are likely going to die when it comes down to these triage decisions of who to save....HOPE that's not accurate. Who are you referring to? They are reporting these rules for China or that Spain is close to making those decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, bmags said: Who are you referring to? They are reporting these rules for China or that Spain is close to making those decisions? What's likely to have happened is that the Chinese press interpreted information coming out of the country...in this way. Not that it was yet an official policy. My wife came into the room just now and asked "How could they be allowing all those older people in Spain to just die without trying to save them?" I'm trying to find something online to corroborate, but it seems these individual situations are not (yet) following official hospital or country-wide policy but more up to discretion of doctors and health care workers. That said, they might need to create a policy pretty quickly in NY because we might be in a similar scenario 7-10 days from now. It might already have happened in one hospital where 13 died, and there was another where the available respirators into last night were in the single digits. No idea how long it will take to convert existing equipment where TWO patients can use the same ventilator...is that something that can be done on-site, or has to be done in the factory before they're shipped out? Whatever the result, that James Dyson is a genius, all that I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sorry-conspiracy-theorists-study-concludes-covid-19-not-090026698--abc-news-topstories.html Virus wasn't created in Wuhan Virology Lab artificially...nor did it actually originate at the wet market here in Wuhan, but likely transported in from another area of China where pangolins breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 A nice graphical breakdown of where the $2T relief bill goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Caulfield, let's slow it down with posting every article you read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 My district updated us on expectations for our students. We start from a positive slate. If a student was missing work, had a low grade, etc we'll wipe those out and start fresh. If it helps, we keep them. No summative grades (tests, etc) only formative and all are weighted the same. Expect 20 minutes per day or 100 minutes per week for all work. Allow extra time. Allow extra help. Be flexible, be flexible, be flexible. Off to replan lessons . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Caulfield, let's slow it down with posting every article you read A summary with links would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: A nice graphical breakdown of where the $2T relief bill goes Student Loans at $43B? I thought that forgiveness wasn't included. That can't be just interest, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Texsox said: Student Loans at $43B? I thought that forgiveness wasn't included. That can't be just interest, etc. America owes $1.5 trillion in student loan debt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: America owes $1.5 trillion in student loan debt. I just found in an article that about $30B will go to "stabilizing" universities. That doesn't sound like an opportunity for waste. Hopefully some will go to all the non tenure staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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