Ducksnort Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Quin said: There are some projections projecting 30% unemployment. That's the high end, but this is looking like 2008 on steroids. 30% is Great Depression-esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: 30% is Great Depression-esque Welcome to 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Welcome to 2020. Where it will magically disappear by April and is a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Today we also hit 1 million cases world wide, as well as 50,000 deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, bmags said: This is good news and matches what I've heard from friends at hospitals: That upper bound is terrifying though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: 30% is Great Depression-esque ...it's worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, mqr said: ...it's worse With a consumer economy, it's beyond devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Quin said: With a consumer economy, it's beyond devastating. Thinking back, they didn't do the extreme and purposeful undercounting of unemployment by putting a higher bar of requirement to meet the definition of "unemployed" to hit this number. If we are at 10% on the U3, we are probably at least around 15% on the U6 which is the all encompassing number. Previously U3 was 3.5% and U6 was 7%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Quin said: With a consumer economy, it's beyond devastating. I disagree, the action by the govt and Fed here and globally is much much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, mqr said: That upper bound is terrifying though. Well, 795 new reports today. At 7k, much closer to the current trajectory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Joe Rogan had a Professor of Molecular Virology & Microbiology on his podcast to discuss the virus. Interesting stuff and much better than the garbage you get from mainstream news sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Jared Kushner about to make his first public appearance...this should be interesting if he takes questions. Guess we’ll never get a 9/11 Commission Report to figure out what went actually wrong so as to be better prepared in the future...because “impeachment/media/hoax.“ Sighs again. Another aspect of the Treasury/monetary policy moves....the pressing needs in Europe. Investors are selling what they can to keep their money in dollars due to the unprecedented amount of uncertainty caused by the coronavirus pandemic, which threatens to paralyse the global economy. The U.S. Federal Reserve opened the taps for central banks in 9 new countries to access dollars in hopes of preventing the coronavirus outbreak from causing a global economic rout. The dollar pared gains just before the Fed announcement. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/forex-markets-european-central-bank-coronavirus-in-focus.html Edited April 2, 2020 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Jared Kushner about to make his first public appearance...this should be interesting if he takes questions. “Great question. Just let me consult Facebook real quick and get back to you.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 56 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Joe Rogan had a Professor of Molecular Virology & Microbiology on his podcast to discuss the virus. Interesting stuff and much better than the garbage you get from mainstream news sources. Peter Hotez has been a frequent face on CNN and MSNBC lately, so swing and a miss here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, bmags said: “Great question. Just let me consult Facebook real quick and get back to you.” I would rather hear from his brother and Karlie Kloss. They might even beat The Bachelor ratings and get their own spin-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Quin said: Peter Hotez has been a frequent face on CNN and MSNBC lately, so swing and a miss here. 10 minutes ago, Tony said: I know right, it's like the MSM won't put "real" doctors on like this..... Yeah, no shit. He said multiple times on the podcast that he has been on all the major news stations, including Fox News, MSNBC, CNN. Those stations also pedal one sided garbage that fit their agendas. This podcast allows over an hour of good content from the professor. He doesn't have a limited timeslot like on all the news stations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Captain of USS Theodore Roosevelt fired... https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-relieves-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-loss-of-confidence-2020-4 https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/brian-kemp-ron-desantis-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html Now we have this unprecedented situation in Florida with the governor stating no local/municipal/county restriction is allowed to be stricter than his statewide rule. What happened to local officials on the ground being able to make those decisions more effectively? More confusion. Now it was reversed again. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that local governments can enact stricter measures to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus than what is outlined in his statewide stay-at-home order, seeking to clear up confusion over language that says his order “supersedes” all local actions. After he signed an executive order around 1 p.m. Wednesday telling everyone in the state to stay at home through the end of April, except for certain essential activities, DeSantis issued an amendment to the order hours later. The amendment said the governor’s order “shall supersede any conflicting action or order issued by local officials in response to COVID-19.” Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241720381.html#storylink=cpy Finally, Trump announcing theorizing that the wearing of scarves because they are thicker will provide more protection than proper medical masks is borderline certifiable. Edited April 3, 2020 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) This is one the most truly absurd quotes I’ve ever heard. JFC these people, and this one in particular, are useless. Edited April 3, 2020 by mqr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Seems like we should be doing something about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, mqr said: This is one the most truly absurd quotes I’ve ever heard. JFC these people, and this one in particular, are useless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Uninsured Americans could be facing nearly $75,000 in medical bills if hospitalized for coronavirus Those who are hospitalized with coronavirus can expect to pay anywhere from $42,486 to $74,310 if they are uninsured or if they receive care that's deemed out-of-network by their insurance company, according to recent analysis by independent nonprofit FAIR Health. For those with insurance who are using in-network providers, out-of-pocket costs will be a portion of $21,936 to $38,755, depending on the cost-sharing provisions of their health plan. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/01/covid-19-hospital-bills-could-cost-uninsured-americans-up-to-75000.html?__twitter_impression=true We can have a better society if we choose. I'm hopeful that's one of the lasting outcomes of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Uninsured Americans could be facing nearly $75,000 in medical bills if hospitalized for coronavirus Those who are hospitalized with coronavirus can expect to pay anywhere from $42,486 to $74,310 if they are uninsured or if they receive care that's deemed out-of-network by their insurance company, according to recent analysis by independent nonprofit FAIR Health. For those with insurance who are using in-network providers, out-of-pocket costs will be a portion of $21,936 to $38,755, depending on the cost-sharing provisions of their health plan. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/01/covid-19-hospital-bills-could-cost-uninsured-americans-up-to-75000.html?__twitter_impression=true We can have a better society if we choose. I'm hopeful that's one of the lasting outcomes of this. Well, as usual, they’ll get back to us on this. Will insurance companies that are waiving copays get reimbursed by the government? Will there be any (independently-verifiable) way of tracking $2 trillion in spending? Well, no, we don’t have time for witch hunts, hoaxes and negativity. What about the 30 million who aren’t part of ObamaCare and can’t buy in now (SEP)...even if they wanted to? Sounds great to say the government would LIKE to take care of everyone, but what will be the reality? One of his better quotes... 11. "One thing about the way I've conducted myself is not a lot of people know who I've been talking to and what I've been talking about and that protects people." Shorter (Jared) Kushner: I talk to people. Lots of people. You don't know them. But I talk to them. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/politics/jared-kushner-axios/index.html Edited April 3, 2020 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Yeah, no shit. He said multiple times on the podcast that he has been on all the major news stations, including Fox News, MSNBC, CNN. Those stations also pedal one sided garbage that fit their agendas. This podcast allows over an hour of good content from the professor. He doesn't have a limited timeslot like on all the news stations. If it's not on my magamouthbreathers.com page it is not legit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Perhaps cutting government to the bone is not actually the best idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, caulfield12 said: Captain of USS Theodore Roosevelt fired... https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-relieves-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-loss-of-confidence-2020-4 https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/brian-kemp-ron-desantis-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html Now we have this unprecedented situation in Florida with the governor stating no local/municipal/county restriction is allowed to be stricter than his statewide rule. What happened to local officials on the ground being able to make those decisions more effectively? More confusion. Now it was reversed again. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that local governments can enact stricter measures to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus than what is outlined in his statewide stay-at-home order, seeking to clear up confusion over language that says his order “supersedes” all local actions. After he signed an executive order around 1 p.m. Wednesday telling everyone in the state to stay at home through the end of April, except for certain essential activities, DeSantis issued an amendment to the order hours later. The amendment said the governor’s order “shall supersede any conflicting action or order issued by local officials in response to COVID-19.” Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241720381.html#storylink=cpy Finally, Trump announcing theorizing that the wearing of scarves because they are thicker will provide more protection than proper medical masks is borderline certifiable. When you consider the knowledge imputed to this guy it is pretty damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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