Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) The White Sox are signing Norge Vera and would like to sign Oscar Colas. They have agreements in place with 6 other players as well though and I wrote about all of it for Patreon subscribers! http://futuresox.com/2020/02/11/report-white-sox-active-in-international-market-leading-up-to-2020-period/ Edited February 11, 2020 by Y2Jimmy0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Anyone else having trouble accessing this article through Patreon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 @Y2Jimmy0 and @Rankin, I'm getting an error whenever I hit the "Unlock for Patreon subscribers" button. I just get a Patreon URL with a whole bunch of code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yeah we're on it now. Thanks for your patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Quin said: @Y2Jimmy0 and @Rankin, I'm getting an error whenever I hit the "Unlock for Patreon subscribers" button. I just get a Patreon URL with a whole bunch of code. 10 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah we're on it now. Thanks for your patience. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankin Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Should be up and running now! If you still experience some issues, let us know. Thanks for keeping us informed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 A primer on the new rules for folks like me that are confused: Quote As per the 2017-21 Collective Bargaining Agreement, clubs are each subject to a spending cap for amateur international free agents. Each club will have at least a $4.75 million bonus pool to spend, with those that have a pick in Competitive Balance Round A receiving $5.25 million and those with a pick in Competitive Balance Round B receiving $5.75 million. Clubs will be able to acquire up to 75 percent of their initial international bonus pool money in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 signing periods and up to 60 percent of their initial pools in subsequent signing periods. This means that a club with an initial pool of $5.75 million can increase its pool total via trade to approximately $10.1 million during the 2017-18 and 2018-19 signing periods. The 2017-21 CBA also allows international funds to be traded more freely, as teams must now simply trade international money in increments of $250,000, unless they have less than $250,000 remaining in their pool. Under the 2012-16 CBA, teams were assigned four tradeable "slots" with different values designated for each slot. The money was able to be traded only in those increments. Each year's international signing period begins July 2 and continues through June 15 of the following year. Under the CBA, international amateurs are defined as follows: • Player resides outside of the United States, Canada or Puerto Rico and has not been enrolled in high school in any of those locations within the past calendar year. • Player is at least 16 years of age or will turn 16 years of age prior to Sept. 1 of the current signing period. Any player meeting that criteria becomes eligible to sign a Minor League contract with a Major League organization for a signing bonus that fits within said team's allotted pool. Players that sign for a total bonus of $10,000 or less do not count against a team's allotted bonus pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The White Sox are signing Norge Vera and would like to sign Oscar Colas. They have agreements in place with 6 other players as well though and I wrote about all of it for Patreon subscribers! http://futuresox.com/2020/02/11/report-white-sox-active-in-international-market-leading-up-to-2020-period/ Great work! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 One of the tweetmongers was claiming Colas is going Comiskey done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Good as place as any to add this - Mas Cubanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Quin said: Good as place as any to add this - Mas Cubanos. How much do you know about the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 22 hours ago, pcq said: One of the tweetmongers was claiming Colas is going Comiskey done deal. Where did you see this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sox80 said: How much do you know about the two? I am not @Y2Jimmy0, so the most I can give you is this article on Yoelkis: https://www.espn.com/blog/onenacion/post/_/id/6868/the-cespedes-brothers-yoenis-and-yoelkis-are-not-quite-alike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, Quin said: I am not @Y2Jimmy0, so the most I can give you is this article on Yoelkis: https://www.espn.com/blog/onenacion/post/_/id/6868/the-cespedes-brothers-yoenis-and-yoelkis-are-not-quite-alike Thanks. Much appreciated. If they're interested in those two. I wonder if that means cola's isn't happening. Either way they need to trade for more international money I'm assuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sox80 said: Thanks. Much appreciated. If they're interested in those two. I wonder if that means cola's isn't happening. Either way they need to trade for more international money I'm assuming. It's better to look at it from the angle that the Sox are casting a wide net. If they miss on Colas, go for Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Quin said: It's better to look at it from the angle that the Sox are casting a wide net. If they miss on Colas, go for Cespedes. Very true. if they can find a way to get 2 out of the 3 I'd be extremely happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Dyan Yamel Jorge seems to be a contact & speed oriented SS. Apparently he was running between 5.9 and 6.1 in the 60 yard during his showcase. To put that number in perspective, our draftee James Beard (who was compared to Billy Hamilton) was the fastest player in last year's draft and he ran a 6.2 60 yard. CJ Abrams is listed as an 80 runner on pipeline and he ran a 6.29 60 yard. Dyan was the starting SS for Cuba in the 2018 u15 World Cup. Check the video in that link. He is wearing a Sox shirt and the scout on the right seems to be wearing a Sox shirt too. I did see another video where he wasn't wearing any Sox stuff, so that showcase in the video above was probably just at our DR facility. https://u15bwc.wbsc.org/en/2018/player/22171 Stats from the World Cup. He had a pretty good day against the USA. Edited February 14, 2020 by GenericUserName 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, GenericUserName said: Dyan Yamel Jorge seems to be a contact & speed oriented SS. Apparently he was running between 5.9 and 6.1 in the 60 yard during his showcase. To put that number in perspective, our draftee James Beard (who was compared to Billy Hamilton) was the fastest player in last year's draft and he ran a 6.2 60 yard. CJ Abrams is listed as an 80 runner on pipeline and he ran a 6.29 60 yard. Dyan was the starting SS for Cuba in the 2018 u15 World Cup. Check the video in that link. He is wearing a Sox shirt and the scout on the right seems to be wearing a Sox shirt too. I did see another video where he wasn't wearing any Sox stuff, so that showcase in the video above was probably just at our DR facility. https://u15bwc.wbsc.org/en/2018/player/22171 Stats from the World Cup. He had a pretty good day against the USA. Based on no other information in terms of skill or requisite space needed to sign prospects, Sox need to trade for cap space so they can get this kid and Colas, load up on Cubans and have just nightmarish speed on the paths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Sox80 said: Very true. if they can find a way to get 2 out of the 3 I'd be extremely happy. I'll add that Yoelkis Cespedes is already 22 so hopefully he can sign July 2nd. He'll be 23 in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Sox80 said: How much do you know about the two? I'm intrigued by Dyan Yamel because of his age. That'd be a nice get. Jesse Sanchez put him at #15 overall in the 2019 class. I would guess he gets between $2-$3 million. I don't have much interest in Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I'm intrigued by Dyan Yamel because of his age. That'd be a nice get. Jesse Sanchez put him at #15 overall in the 2019 class. I would guess he gets between $2-$3 million. I don't have much interest in Cespedes. So getting both yamel and cola's is probably not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sox80 said: So getting both yamel and cola's is probably not possible? I would think so but I'm not really sure. Colas is a weird situation. He's not cleared to sign and he's still technically under contract with his Japanese club. Yamel can sign immediately. The Sox don't have money in this period. Jesse Sanchez linked the Sox to Yamel yesterday. I was told by a pretty plugged in Cuban reporter that the Sox don't have the bonus amount that Yamel is asking for. That seems weird too though because the Sox have over $3 million for next period. I wouldn't think he gets $3 million personally. We shall see I guess. At least they're active. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I would think so but I'm not really sure. Colas is a weird situation. He's not cleared to sign and he's still technically under contract with his Japanese club. Yamel can sign immediately. The Sox don't have money in this period. Jesse Sanchez linked the Sox to Yamel yesterday. I was told by a pretty plugged in Cuban reporter that the Sox don't have the bonus amount that Yamel is asking for. That seems weird too though because the Sox have over $3 million for next period. I wouldn't think he gets $3 million personally. We shall see I guess. At least they're active. Thanks Jimmy much appreciated. Love futuresox by the way. Money well spent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Quin said: Based on no other information in terms of skill or requisite space needed to sign prospects, Sox need to trade for cap space so they can get this kid and Colas, load up on Cubans and have just nightmarish speed on the paths We should trade for the max cap space in this period and go after Pedro Leon and try to steal him from the Astros. Colas looks good and Dyan seems interesting, but Leon is going to be a star and likely sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I would think so but I'm not really sure. Colas is a weird situation. He's not cleared to sign and he's still technically under contract with his Japanese club. Yamel can sign immediately. The Sox don't have money in this period. Jesse Sanchez linked the Sox to Yamel yesterday. I was told by a pretty plugged in Cuban reporter that the Sox don't have the bonus amount that Yamel is asking for. That seems weird too though because the Sox have over $3 million for next period. I wouldn't think he gets $3 million personally. We shall see I guess. At least they're active. So, Colas could very well be a 2021 situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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