mqr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: It's not the value I'm worried about, it's the amount of plate appearances over the course of a season. Eloy missed out on developmental time last year and it would be nice to get an extra 40-50 PAs (depending on which source you're using) this season by batting him 3rd. He is also likely a better offensive player than Abreu going forward Edit- And if Eloy is 4th, I won't care, but I'm more convinced that will be EE or Grandal Fairly confident the standard lineup template to start will be Anderson Moncada Abreu Grandal EE Eloy Mazara Robert 2B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, mqr said: Fairly confident the standard lineup template to start will be Anderson Moncada Abreu Grandal EE Eloy Mazara Robert 2B Eloy is going to press the issue, but I think the handedness may lead to Grandal there followed by EE. I'd rather Eloy hit 4th, and I don't think handedness is as important anymore with the 3 batter rule. With Moncada 2nd, and Grandal 5thish, you could bat Eloy 4th and not have to worry about 3 consecutive righties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Eloy is going to press the issue, but I think the handedness may lead to Grandal there followed by EE. I'd rather Eloy hit 4th, and I don't think handedness is as important anymore with the 3 batter rule. With Moncada 2nd, and Grandal 5thish, you could bat Eloy 4th and not have to worry about 3 consecutive righties. Yeah, this isn't necessarily what I would do, but this is going to be what it is. I'd probably go EE Eloy Grandal Abreu But again, this is a lineup that sub-optimal lineups are going to have an incredibly marginal effect, at least on paper. If Encarnacion or Abreu or someone is total garbage this would change some. Edited February 20, 2020 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Don’t like Anderson leading off. Hope by the all star game he’s in the lower third as a real threat most teams don’t have the luxury of and Madrigal or Robert is in the top spot. It really could be great for Robert to hit first and Madrigal to be second. He’s an ideal guy for that lineup position. Edited February 20, 2020 by hi8is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Anderson Moncada Grandal Abreu EE Eloy Robert Mazara Madrigal ? Once Robert gets acclimated, switch him and Anderson. If Anderson is lighting the world on fire and that is hard to do, you have yourself a very good problem. Edited February 20, 2020 by Orlando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, smalls2598 said: Anderson leading off with Moncada in the #2 position is how I would play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, poppysox said: Anderson leading off with Moncada in the #2 position is how I would play it. It's fine. Most of the stats around lineup construction say any lineup order with the same players only matters about 1 game for the whole season. I think it's where the players are the most comfortable is what matters the most. Edited February 20, 2020 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just think Anderson and Moncada with their relatively low walk and high strikeout rates aren’t suited well for table setting duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, hi8is said: Don’t like Anderson leading off. Hope by the all star game he’s in the lower third as a real threat most teams don’t have the luxury of and Madrigal or Robert is in the top spot. It really could be great for Robert to hit first and Madrigal to be second. He’s an ideal guy for that lineup position. 18 minutes ago, Orlando said: Anderson Moncada Grandal Abreu EE Eloy Robert Mazara Madrigal ? Once Robert gets acclimated, switch him and Anderson. If Anderson is lighting the world on fire and that is hard to do, you have yourself a very good problem. People who want Robert to lead off please explain this to me, and then stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, gusguyman said: People who want Robert to lead off please explain this to me, and then stop it. Higher walk rate, faster, more power, has a chance to be one of the most dynamic offensive players in baseball. Something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, hi8is said: Higher walk rate, faster, more power, has a chance to be one of the most dynamic offensive players in baseball. Something like that. Robert is going to have a higher walk rate than Tim Anderson and that's probably about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Let's just hope Robert has an absolute monster ST and Renteria puts him at #1 immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, mqr said: Robert is going to have a higher walk rate than Tim Anderson and that's probably about it. What? Robert has better tools than Tim Anderson accross the board... Or am I misunderstanding you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: What? Robert has better tools than Tim Anderson accross the board... Or am I misunderstanding you? Robert doesn't walk, but he'll walk more than Anderson. Not sure how you gathered that I think TA has better tools lol. Edit: I see how you could have read that now. When I said that's about it I meant Tim is the only person he'll have a higher walk rate than. Edited February 20, 2020 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Robert led off a lot in the minors and my hope is that he will shine there once he is more acclimated. Until then TA makes the most sense with Moncada anchored in the 2 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 My best guess to open the season: TA Yo Abreu Grandal EE Eloy Mazara Robert 2B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The good news is... no matter how you line these guys up...looks pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Two more days ( maybe three ) until we’re able to watch a Chicago White Sox baseball game instead of repeatedly speculating... Yippee. Edited February 21, 2020 by hi8is -e +ing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: I'm just glad it's not Leury. Hopefully it's Anderson/Moncada in that order as Moncada has made it clear that he doesn't want to bat first Seriously. This is a tremendous development by Ricky. Let it be Anderson then Moncada. Yoyo hates leading off and he's way better in the 2 spot where your best hitter should be anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuagman Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Does anyone know if the Sox still play intrasquad games prior to the spring training games? Was able to see it a couple years ago which was a blast but wasn’t sure since first game starts Saturday (would have to be tomorrow). Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 There's a ton of power in the lineup. If your 3-7 is some order of Abreu, EE, Grandal, Eloy, and Robert, that is a shit load of HRs and RBIs. Hopefully the guys around them, especially the 1-2 guys, get on base a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I just listened to the new Mazara interview, on the NBC podcast. What a terrific, likeable young man. He was more personable, intelligent and articulate than most of the American ball players, whom I've heard interviewed, especially considering that English is not his native language. I'll be rooting very hard for him and love his potential. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: There's a ton of power in the lineup. If your 3-7 is some order of Abreu, EE, Grandal, Eloy, and Robert, that is a shit load of HRs and RBIs. Hopefully the guys around them, especially the 1-2 guys, get on base a lot. Yea... I’d place the over/under at 155 for that group. Mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, hi8is said: Yea... I’d place the over/under at 155 for that group. Mercy. The smart money would be on the over IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, cjgalloway said: What? Robert has better tools than Tim Anderson accross the board... Or am I misunderstanding you? He certainly doesn't have better contact skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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