southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I've had a tough time confirming anything during this pandemic. The White Sox have heavy rumored interest in Cespedes though. Today, Oscar Colas signed with Alex Cotto, the same agent that represents Norge Vera and Yoan Moncada. I'm not sure if it means anything but it's something to watch. Vera is in place for the next signing period, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Vera is in place for the next signing period, correct? The one (hypothetically) starting July 2nd, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I've had a tough time confirming anything during this pandemic. The White Sox have heavy rumored interest in Cespedes though. Today, Oscar Colas signed with Alex Cotto, the same agent that represents Norge Vera and Yoan Moncada. I'm not sure if it means anything but it's something to watch. Ok everyone, start the great SoxTalk Colas v. Cespedes debate. Mainly because we need some baseball to chat about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Quin said: The one (hypothetically) starting July 2nd, yes. Putting it all together, if Vera and Colas are seemingly in this class, it probably means Cespedes isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Putting it all together, if Vera and Colas are seemingly in this class, it probably means Cespedes isn't. I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. Will there be prospects at facilities though? Just curious, or will MiLBers be screwed altogether? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. Well this is the most fascinating hypothesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. That would be a great way to cover all 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. This is very interesting. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard this specifically but I think the White Sox will try to prioritize Cespedes during this upcoming period. Then you worry about Colas later. Nobody else has money either and his Japanese club believes that they own his rights. If his situation isn't solved this summer, they could theoretically just sign Oscar Colas using 2021 signing money and push his signing to that period. There likely won't be any minor league baseball anyway so it's not a huge deal at this point. If Colas would be someone who might be pushed to the July 2021 signing period, what would be the reason for his switch in agencies at this current time? Could they "agree" to something w/ the Sox this far in advance and just not have it become official for another 14 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 9 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: If Colas would be someone who might be pushed to the July 2021 signing period, what would be the reason for his switch in agencies at this current time? Could they "agree" to something w/ the Sox this far in advance and just not have it become official for another 14 months? Judging by the players they have, it could be the ability to get Cuban players to the US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Would the Sox theoretically be able to sign Cespedes and Colas if both were in this upcoming July 2nd signing period? Or is it a one or the other kind of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/17/2020 at 11:45 PM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: If Colas would be someone who might be pushed to the July 2021 signing period, what would be the reason for his switch in agencies at this current time? Could they "agree" to something w/ the Sox this far in advance and just not have it become official for another 14 months? A lot of the players internationally have had "agreements" with teams for multiple years before they're actually allowed to sign, so I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: A lot of the players internationally have had "agreements" with teams for multiple years before they're actually allowed to sign, so I don't see why not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I honestly am not too excited about him just on Longehagen (I think) report of him being a 35 FV and is he even listed as a top 30 international prospect?... Edited May 20, 2020 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I honestly am not too excited about him just on Longehagen (I think) report of him being a 35 FV and is he even listed as a top 30 international prospect?... He's not listed because he hasn't been cleared to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's not listed because he hasn't been cleared to sign. oooo, well that would make sense. Can you get me excited a little bit?! What kid of FV or where would he rank in regards to the international pool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: oooo, well that would make sense. Can you get me excited a little bit?! What kid of FV or where would he rank in regards to the international pool? https://www.sbnation.com/2020/1/5/21049586/oscar-colas-mlb-prospect-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 7:58 AM, Sleepy Harold said: A lot of the players internationally have had "agreements" with teams for multiple years before they're actually allowed to sign, so I don't see why not. But isn't that typically because they are teenagers who can't agree to anything yet? Does this also happen with 21 year olds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 All of the so-called “experts” seem to be down on Colas? What are we missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 8 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: But isn't that typically because they are teenagers who can't agree to anything yet? Does this also happen with 21 year olds? Probably. But at the moment he's in somewhat of a similar situation. He's still under contract in Japan (or at least his team believes he is) and hasn't been cleared to sign with a MLB club, so he can't really do anything at the moment until those get resolved. I'm sure teams are "talking" with him and he may ultimately have a preference on where he wants to be, they all just need to wait for the green light from the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I posted some signings on twitter for people to see. I wrote about these for patrons back in February but I corresponded with Ben Badler recently and the players will be in his International Previews on Baseball America. Norge Vera RHP Cuba $1.5 million bonus Victor Quezada 3B DR $525K Manuel Guarimon C Venezuela $475K Dario Barrero OF Venezuela $350K Adrian Gil RHP Venezuela $250K Gabriel Rodriguez IF Venezuela $100K Antonio Jimenez OF $90K Quezada is a big, strength/raw power guy. I tweeted a video. Sox had decent luck with pitchers similar to Gil the past few years with (Cristian Mena and Manuel Veloz). Badler said he expects another "big Cuban signing" due to their history and available pool space. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/25/2020 at 2:25 PM, sox71 said: All of the so-called “experts” seem to be down on Colas? What are we missing? I think longenhagen sees him as more of a DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 4:01 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said: I posted some signings on twitter for people to see. I wrote about these for patrons back in February but I corresponded with Ben Badler recently and the players will be in his International Previews on Baseball America. Norge Vera RHP Cuba $1.5 million bonus Victor Quezada 3B DR $525K Manuel Guarimon C Venezuela $475K Dario Barrero OF Venezuela $350K Adrian Gil RHP Venezuela $250K Gabriel Rodriguez IF Venezuela $100K Antonio Jimenez OF $90K Quezada is a big, strength/raw power guy. I tweeted a video. Sox had decent luck with pitchers similar to Gil the past few years with (Cristian Mena and Manuel Veloz). Badler said he expects another "big Cuban signing" due to their history and available pool space. Do you think the Sox are more likely to sign Cespedes or Colas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Do you think the Sox are more likely to sign Cespedes or Colas? It's a tough question to answer. I'll say Cespedes because he's eligible and Colas isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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