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Chicago White Sox Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It’s going to be fascinating to see which one of Colas or Cespedes they sign as it can really only be one of them. It sounds like Cespedes is the better all-around prospect, but Colas potentially fills a massive hole by offering a left-handed power bat that could slide into RF assuming he’s in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: It’s going to be fascinating to see which one of Colas or Cespedes they sign as it can really only be one of them. It sounds like Cespedes is the better all-around prospect, but Colas potentially fills a massive hole by offering a left-handed power bat that could slide into RF assuming he’s in good shape. Everything about him screams a left handed Kirby Puckett to me, body shape, arm, etc. Would love to see both signed but if given the choice between them I'd prefer Colas. We still have Adolfo, Rutherford and Bailey with the ability to slot into LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6.4 is centerfield kind of speed, that is really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think Colas should be the priority. The Sox need to prioritize LH bats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I think Colas should be the priority. The Sox need to prioritize LH bats. This is where I lean. Before he slimmed down, I might have leaned Cespedes if we removed Colas' 2-way potential. Now, just go with Colas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: 6.4 is centerfield kind of speed, that is really fast. definitely though I feel like the timings we get out of these workouts are always a little suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I think Colas should be the priority. The Sox need to prioritize LH bats. I really wonder with the changes in the international period, and the COVID situation, if one of those guys is going to be willing to undersign a deal up front for a chance to get into baseball quicker and maybe a wink agreement to move up the ladder faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Colas had to of lost 30 pounds. Looks to be in great shape. Get them both!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 hours ago, PolishPrince34 said: Colas had to of lost 30 pounds. Looks to be in great shape. Get them both!!! We don’t have the slot left to sign both, but my guess is either guy would sign with us all else being equal so hopefully we have our choice of which guy to go with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: We don’t have the slot left to sign both, but my guess is either guy would sign with us all else being equal so hopefully we have our choice of which guy to go with. We definitely can't sign both? 0 shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: We definitely can't sign both? 0 shot? I would say so. A big chunk of our slot is already accounted for and there are several teams with space left I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I would say so. A big chunk of our slot is already accounted for and there are several teams with space left I believe. Nothing to do with a delayed signing period from COVID? I genuinely don't know, just want to add the most talent possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ChiSoxJon said: Nothing to do with a delayed signing period from COVID? I genuinely don't know, just want to add the most talent possible If anything the delayed signing period hurts us, as it makes it less likely one of these guys waits out another year. It’s almost certainly going to be one or the other. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said: Nothing to do with a delayed signing period from COVID? I genuinely don't know, just want to add the most talent possible 8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: If anything the delayed signing period hurts us, as it makes it less likely one of these guys waits out another year. It’s almost certainly going to be one or the other. This is true. The White Sox have agreements with Norge Vera and 6 other players totaling just over $3 million. They have close to $2.5 million to spend still and teams aren't allowed to trade money. The 2020 period that was supposed to begin on July 2 starts on January 15. Most teams have all of their $$ spent. The Sox could have prioritized Cespedes and attempted to sign Colas in July 2021 but MLB moved this period to January 15, 2021 and the following period to January 15, 2022. I doubt either guy wants to wait that long and the Sox likely have plans for the 2022 money already anyway. Cespedes can sign whenever but Colas is still hung up with his Japanese deal. The White Sox have a great relationship with Alex Cotto, the agent for Colas who also represents Yoan Moncada and Norge Vera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is true. The White Sox have agreements with Norge Vera and 6 other players totaling just over $3 million. They have close to $2.5 million to spend still and teams aren't allowed to trade money. The 2020 period that was supposed to begin on July 2 starts on January 15. Most teams have all of their $$ spent. The Sox could have prioritized Cespedes and attempted to sign Colas in July 2021 but MLB moved this period to January 15, 2021 and the following period to January 15, 2022. I doubt either guy wants to wait that long and the Sox likely have plans for the 2022 money already anyway. Cespedes can sign whenever but Colas is still hung up with his Japanese deal. The White Sox have a great relationship with Alex Cotto, the agent for Colas who also represents Yoan Moncada and Norge Vera. Do we know who still has money left in this period who could be a threat? Like a Baltimore maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Do we know who still has money left in this period who could be a threat? Like a Baltimore maybe? I think Jimmy previously mentioned the Marlins & Mets as other teams with the necessary slot to sign one of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is true. The White Sox have agreements with Norge Vera and 6 other players totaling just over $3 million. They have close to $2.5 million to spend still and teams aren't allowed to trade money. The 2020 period that was supposed to begin on July 2 starts on January 15. Most teams have all of their $$ spent. The Sox could have prioritized Cespedes and attempted to sign Colas in July 2021 but MLB moved this period to January 15, 2021 and the following period to January 15, 2022. I doubt either guy wants to wait that long and the Sox likely have plans for the 2022 money already anyway. Cespedes can sign whenever but Colas is still hung up with his Japanese deal. The White Sox have a great relationship with Alex Cotto, the agent for Colas who also represents Yoan Moncada and Norge Vera. When do you expect Colas to come off his Japanese deal? How long of a hold up is that going to be? I could see us fans getting anxious if Jan 15 comes and Cespedes signs elsewhere and we are still waiting for him to get out of that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ron883 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Not a huge fan of "The Cuban Ohtani" designation. I know he can throw 95 mph, but I haven't seen much indication that he will pitch outside of that. I hope we sign him regardless. You have to think the White Sox are frontrunners for whichever Cuban prospects they decide to go for. Edited October 5, 2020 by Yearnin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Unless they have traded for more, the Rays should a bonus pool of $6.4M. Sounds like they already have two major signings in place for somewhere around $5.0M plus a couple lesser signings (not sure if they will count against the pool or not). Regardless, seems like they would be hard pressed to sign Colas for much more than $1.0M to $1.4M and I believe Jimmy has pointed out we should have $2M+ to work with. Edited October 5, 2020 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If the Rays want him, then I definitely want him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxSteve Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 With all the money Cespedas brother has made maybe he will sign for a bit less but whoever is the best fit. Doubtful but never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 hours ago, SoxSteve said: With all the money Cespedas brother has made maybe he will sign for a bit less but whoever is the best fit. Doubtful but never know The situations of Yoenis and Yoelkis are not anywhere near comparable when each is/was coming from Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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