Dick Allen Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Tony said: First off, I want to thank you for letting me know the Blackhawks won 3 Cups in the last decade. I wasn’t aware of those accomplishments, so I appreciate you keeping me honest. Don’t know how I missed all that. Second, I’ve yet to see where I said anything about the White Sox “winning longer than the Blackhawks.” I’ve been plenty critical of the Sox FO where it’s warranted, but made it a point to clarify one area where they have been successful is extensions for young players. My point is fairly simple. You don’t think it’s smart to lock up Bummer to this contact with his limited experience. The Sox Front Office did. Based on their track records with extensions, it “not making sense to you” doesn’t really bother me. I’ll go with the Sox on this one. My opinion shouldn’t bother you but your statement that they have more data than me so I shouldn’t be anything but thrilled with anything they do is curious, because you do criticize the Blackhawks and they probably have more data than you. So I guess Tony is the only one with less data that should ever be able to question anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, SoxAce said: Who was the guy who called this one? @CBJ03 had it weeks ago. @Y2Jimmy0 also tweeted that he'd bet on Bummer as a Spring Training extension candidate around the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I could see having three anchors in the pen and having them cost-controlled. Looks like Rodon put the kabash on working out of the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony said: This is the most Dick Allen post ever. Probably ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 If even Yoan4Moan didn't find something to complain about regarding a move, it is probably a good one 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Weird flex, but ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just now, Eminor3rd said: I would say the Nate Jones deal was a complete disaster and I don't think it stopped them from doing anything. When they're this cheap, it's hard to see much downside. Nate The Late Great is ready for a breakout with the Reds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Eminor3rd said: I would say the Nate Jones deal was a complete disaster and I don't think it stopped them from doing anything. When they're this cheap, it's hard to see much downside. He was injured so often insurance probably picked up most of the contract so it didn't hurt the team much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I guess I’ll just say that this isn’t particularly that interesting. If sox like him and think he could be closer, it has benefit of savings in years other salaries rise. If he falls, we are safely in the area where over paying isn’t much of an issue. id blame the bizarre arbitration affinity for relievers for causing this. It’s not going to be hugely impactful, no where near in scale to recent extensions. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, bmags said: I guess I’ll just say that this isn’t particularly that interesting. If sox like him and think he could be closer, it has benefit of savings in years other salaries rise. If he falls, we are safely in the area where over paying isn’t much of an issue. id blame the bizarre arbitration affinity for relievers for causing this. It’s not going to be hugely impactful, no where near in scale to recent extensions. Stop making so damn much sense. That’s clearly not allowed here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, ron883 said: If even Yoan4Moan didn't find something to complain about regarding a move, it is probably a good one I complained about wasting money last year instead (i.e. Herrera, Alonso, Jay), which was much worse than this deal. $31 million thrown in a fire. Yes, Hahn does stupid things but I don’t think this deal will be one of them. Edited February 23, 2020 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 10:54 AM, Jack Parkman said: I don't like committing to relievers with only one good season. Seems like a dumb move. I know it's cheap, but those years on the back end could but a dent in this window if his performance goes south. Relievers are way too damn volatile. Good for Bummer though getting paid. There’s literally zero downside to this extension. Not counting the option years his AAV is $3.2M. That’s a drop in the pan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Absolutely love this move. Fully expecting him to have a huge impact. Future All-Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Looks like Hahn may have started a trend. Edited February 26, 2020 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: It's funny because while all teams are going to copy-cat now because it was valuable, just yesterday the Yankees beat writers were talking about how the Yankees may not lock up judge because their pre-fa extensions to Hicks and Severino have gone so poorly. Just as is the case with scouting/trading/signing FA's, you still need to pick the right guys. I find it really interesting that the Sox have not even attempted to lock up their arms - by all reports - because I think they view them as riskier commodities with their injury histories. Edited February 26, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I find it really interesting that the Sox have not even attempted to lock up their arms - by all reports - because I think they view them as riskier commodities with their injury histories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: If anything I'd much rather extend Giolito than Cease at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Not surprised to see nothing was done here. The Sox seem to want a bigger discount on the pitching front due to the increased risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 1:18 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Not surprised to see nothing was done here. The Sox seem to want a bigger discount on the pitching front due to the increased risk. I wonder if he would be enticed at all with a Freddy Peralta type extension. 5 years for 15 + 2 option years at 10 million.. If I were Cease, I'd pass on something like that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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