tray Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) You can't make plans like this unless you know what will be going of with this pandemic in the next several months ...and we don't. Or as Ruth on Ozark might say, "How the fuk can you start a baseball season when you don't even know if this pandeemic or whatever you call it, is done yet? Edited April 8, 2020 by tray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: I'm sorry but that plan is stupid. No way should players be that isolated with nothing to do or families to see for 5 months. And to make it worse, they are gonna sit in stands six feet from one another? No mound visits? Let me guess defenders will also have to sit out and let a computer determine plays and if a a players would have been tagged out at home. If they are gonna play at least play for real. The game still needs to feel authentic to some degree. I bet most of the ballplayers would love to play the game they love and get paid handsomely even in these conditions. Those are both important things: their love of the game and the $$$ they make playing it. I think they can handle being isolated until they can return to their own ballparks for games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 hours ago, tray said: You can't make plans like this unless you know what will be going of with this pandemic in the next several months ...and we don't. Or as Ruth on Ozark might say, "How the fuk can you start a baseball season when you don't even know if this pandeemic or whatever you call it, is done yet? You can’t make plans? Of course you can make plans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/coronavirus-testing-173607 Why the US isn’t on track to open up...hint, they’re all related to testing. This article looks at exactly where things are today and what needs to change before restarting the economy can safely begin. Unless all or most of these issues are resolved or billionaires can circumvent the problems...it’s going to be extremely difficult to move forward with any of the MLB plans under consideration. Edited April 8, 2020 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bmags said: You can’t make plans? Of course you can make plans. You have to make plans. I'd bet that the AZ plan is just one of several depending on what happens over the next few weeks. The national social distancing "order" will be either relaxed or extended at the end of the month. The CDC recommended social distancing through May 15. A lot can happen between now and then. If the curve is flattening and health officials give some sort of green light, MLB and other sports will have to make a decision fast. If they wait to get a green light to make plans, they'd be weeks to months away from making anything happen. Edited April 8, 2020 by hogan873 Spelling error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Major league baseball issued the following statement: “MLB has been actively considering numerous contingency plans that would allow play to commence once the public health situation has improved to the point that it is safe to do so. While we have discussed the idea of staging games at one location as one potential option, we have not settled on that option or developed a detailed plan. While we continue to interact regularly with governmental and public health officials, we have not sought or received approval of any plan from federal, state and local officials, or the Players Association. The health and safety of our employees, players, fans and the public at large are paramount, and we are not ready at this time to endorse any particular format for staging games in light of the rapidly changing public health situation caused by the coronavirus.” Passan is feeding into false hope. Several players, including Chris Sale, have expressed concerns about being quarantined for four months in AZ away from their families. Bottom line is that no plan is on the table and won't be until this thing is under control. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: That would be great. Like in some sort of community plex the team hosts? Sort of. I think they'd just be allowed to stay in the hotel (or wherever the players are staying) with the players. If for whatever reason that does not work, it was also implied that as the season goes on and the virus (hopefully) becomes less of a threat, restrictions could be lowered progressively. Meaning families could be allowed to stay once it is deemed allowable by health organizations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 11 hours ago, tray said: You can't make plans like this unless you know what will be going of with this pandemic in the next several months ...and we don't. Or as Ruth on Ozark might say, "How the fuk can you start a fing baseball season when you fing don't even know if this fing pandeemic or whatever the f you call it, is done yet? fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 The MLB one location thing has not cleared a single hurdle in regard to the CDC or anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://theathletic.com/1731160/2020/04/07/hard-to-pull-off-players-want-baseball-back-but-some-question-arizona-idea/?source=dailyemail “I personally don’t think that everyone would go for it,” (Alex) Wood said. “I think (the Arizona plan is) a possibility if we know for certain that that’s the only way we can play baseball. Does that make sense? I don’t have kids or anything like that. I’m down for whatever. I just want to play ball.” A survey by The Athletic of players and managers, some of whom requested anonymity, about the framework of the Arizona plan revealed a combination of excitement and apprehension. Expressions of hope were leavened by concerns about the safety of support staffers, the desert heat, the difficulty of maintaining quarantine and the strain of being separated from their families. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 You haven't completed an episode of Ozark until you hear Ruth say "come get sum biiiiiiitch" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The MLB one location thing has not cleared a single hurdle in regard to the CDC or anything. Quote Federal officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as the National Institutes of Health have been supportive of a plan that would adhere to strict isolation, promote social distancing and allow MLB to become the first professional sport to return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I don't think a May start is feasible but at some point the thirst for revenue will overwhelm both the owners and the union. Obviously nothing is close at the moment, and I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, but I also think people are being too dismissive 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I don't think a May start is feasible but at some point the thirst for revenue will overwhelm both the owners and the union. Obviously nothing is close at the moment, and I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, but I also think people are being too dismissive Don't read any of Nightengale's posts on Twitter. He's the biggest naysayer out there. Reading some other articles by other writers, it seems like MLB wants to start up as soon as possible (without safety and health risks), and playing at in regular stadiums, even without fans, is the most desirable. Heyman mentioned that the league is pretty much resigned to at least starting the season without fans, whether it's at home parks or in AZ. I think they'll get it done, one way or another. It's only early April. the next 4-6 weeks will be crucial to getting back to "normal", whatever that looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I think if things go accordingly to plan this month, Baseball will start June 1st. They are the one league that can't handle a work stoppage. They will fight that off to the death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: The thirst for revenue will overwhelm both the owners and the union. ... I also think people are being too dismissive You are right. No matter what some people think, the economy does matter not only to sportsworld but every American. This country can't afford to shut down all of 2020. The scientists and all the experts should be working on compromise plans to get the country going again as soon as possible. Instead of that I suggest the majority of people desperately want to stay holed up. They feel safe and sound in their new routines: I.e. they've got plenty of toilet paper and can get deliveries from stores or can go to the stores and that's perfect in their eyes until they are 100 percent SURE COVID-19 is over. I say find a way to play ball and find a way to get things running again. Isn't china up and running now? Isn't Russia? Has North Korea even acknowledged any cases hit there? Hmmmm. https://news.yahoo.com/north-koreas-official-coronavirus-count-172000898.html Edited April 8, 2020 by greg775 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, greg775 said: You are right. No matter what some people think, the economy does matter not only to sportsworld but every American. This country can't afford to shut down all of 2020. The scientists and all the experts should be working on compromise plans to get the country going again as soon as possible. Instead of that I suggest the majority of people desperately want to stay holed up. They feel safe and sound in their new routines: I.e. they've got plenty of toilet paper and can get deliveries from stores or can go to the stores and that's perfect in their eyes until they are 100 percent SURE COVID-19 is over. I say find a way to play ball and find a way to get things running again. Isn't china up and running now? Isn't Russia? Has North Korea even acknowledged any cases hit there? Hmmmm. https://news.yahoo.com/north-koreas-official-coronavirus-count-172000898.html You finally said something "trophy" worthly.. Damn you, ya old bastard, damn you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, greg775 said: You are right. No matter what some people think, the economy does matter not only to sportsworld but every American. This country can't afford to shut down all of 2020. The scientists and all the experts should be working on compromise plans to get the country going again as soon as possible. Instead of that I suggest the majority of people desperately want to stay holed up. They feel safe and sound in their new routines: I.e. they've got plenty of toilet paper and can get deliveries from stores or can go to the stores and that's perfect in their eyes until they are 100 percent SURE COVID-19 is over. I say find a way to play ball and find a way to get things running again. Isn't china up and running now? Isn't Russia? Has North Korea even acknowledged any cases hit there? Hmmmm. https://news.yahoo.com/north-koreas-official-coronavirus-count-172000898.html Again, we have a thread for politics related to COVID, let's keep this stuff to baseball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: You finally said something "trophy" worthly.. Damn you, ya old bastard, damn you. Thanks Squirm, I am passionate about certain issues and I am upset so many people, including very smart people, won't even consider reopening America before May or June of 2021. I'm telling you the world cannot be on hold that long. America will not surive and so many will die because of lack of food, $$. Nobody but the truly elite will have any money. It will be intersting if all other countries open up and we act scared, remain closed for business for 18 months. Would China attack a weakened America? Would Russia? Would they both? Let's be reasonable and play ball soon! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If they held AZ and FL games you could have three indoor games daily at Phoenix and Tampa with four outdoor games in each state. One team in each state would have a bye. Might be the best of a bad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Latest models show fewer cases in Illinois, the curve is flattening in NY and Louisiana. Seems as if the social distancing is working. Still a ways to go, but we could be seeing the light at the end of a long tunnel. This could allow for the season to start, in some fashion, by early summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Latest models show fewer cases in Illinois, the curve is flattening in NY and Louisiana. Seems as if the social distancing is working. Still a ways to go, but we could be seeing the light at the end of a long tunnel. This could allow for the season to start, in some fashion, by early summer. Hopefully it continues. But am worried about a couple of things, once the "curve" seems to be headed downward, people thinking it's over and sliding back to closer to norms, and the warming weather will make people want to go out more. I went to the grocery store yesterday afternoon, and left immediately. Way too crowded. I am pretty scared of this thing as my wife has asthma, and she cannot get this under any circumstance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Hopefully it continues. But am worried about a couple of things, once the "curve" seems to be headed downward, people thinking it's over and sliding back to closer to norms, and the warming weather will make people want to go out more. I went to the grocery store yesterday afternoon, and left immediately. Way too crowded. I am pretty scared of this thing as my wife has asthma, and she cannot get this under any circumstance. Social distancing will be a thing until at least August. It is common knowledge that if we ease up on it we may have to start this process over again. It's important that we keep informed about what the scientists and doctors are saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said: Social distancing will be a thing until at least August. It is common knowledge that if we ease up on it we may have to start this process over again. It's important that we keep informed about what the scientists and doctors are saying. They should move the Coaching Boxes back and make the Coaches stay in them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, oldsox said: They should move the Coaching Boxes back and make the Coaches stay in them. They could draw lines on the field to limit each player's area for defense;) You can see how the contact sports have a much bigger problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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