turnin' two Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Define it however you'd like. Your favorite players. The guys that in your opinion were the best. Combination of the two. Whatever you want. Here is mine: C -- Carlton Fisk 1B -- Paul Konerko 2B-- Eddie Collins SS-- Luke Appling 3B -- Robin Ventura LF -- Minnie Minoso CF -- Lance Johnson RF-- Harold Banies DH - Frank SP Ed Walsh SP Mark Buehrle SP Billy Pierce SP Jack McDowell SP Chris Sale Closer : Bobby ..... Thigpen I'd hit them ... Minoso (R), Collins( L), Thomas(R), Konerko(R), Ventura(L), Fisk(R), Baines(L), Appling(R), Johnson(L). My worst choice was leaving Magglio off. He was one of my all time favorite players, but so was Baines. I really wanted to cheat and say Minnie could man CF, to bring them both, but didn't want to go that route. Also I could have obviously DHed Baines and moved Frank to 1B, but Pauly needed to be in there more than Magglio. Appling vs. Aparicio was a difficult choice as well, with 2 great options. I ended up taking Appling simply because played for the Sox and no one else, and Aparicio had 8 seasons with other teams. I had to go with Bobby Thigpen, because literally my first memory of White Sox baseball is listening to my games with my Dad, and hearing John Rooney say "Thigpen ready" and it became the thought that went through my head every time, in the backyard, when I came set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Johnson for CF is a bit weak. Jungle Jim Rivera may be a better choice. Think we had a guy named Roush back around 1920s who was outstanding. Shoeless Joe maybe could have played CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, MnSoxFan said: Johnson for CF is a bit weak. Jungle Jim Rivera may be a better choice. Think we had a guy named Roush back around 1920s who was outstanding. Shoeless Joe maybe could have played CF. I was going to name Shoeless but he mostly played in the corners (LF/RF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 C- A.J. pierzynski 1b - paulie 2b - Eddie collins SS - Luke appling 3B - robin ventura LF - Minnie Minoso CF - joe Jackson RF - Harold baines dh - frank Thomas sp - ed walsh sp - chris sale sp - Mark Buehrle sp - billy pierce sp - ted Lyons cL - Keith foulke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Happy Felsch s/b CF, also part of scandal that cut his career short. He played CF, Jackson played RF. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/felscha01.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 C - AJ Pierzynski 1B - Paul Konerko 2B - Tadahito Iguchi 3B - Joe Crede SS - Juan Uribe RF - Jermaine Dye CF - Aaron Rowand LF - Scott Podsednik SP - Mark Buehrle SP - Jose Contreras SP - Freddy Garcia SP - Jon Garland CL - Bobby Jenks 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: C - AJ Pierzynski 1B - Paul Konerko 2B - Tadahito Iguchi 3B - Joe Crede SS - Juan Uribe RF - Jermaine Dye CF - Aaron Rowand LF - Scott Podsednik SP - Mark Buehrle SP - Jose Contreras SP - Freddy Garcia SP - Jon Garland CL - Bobby Jenks Hard to argue there. Hahaha. Nicely done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 These are all false. No Lyle Mouton mentions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 On 4/6/2020 at 10:49 PM, turnin' two said: Define it however you'd like. Your favorite players. The guys that in your opinion were the best. Combination of the two. Whatever you want. Here is mine: C -- Carlton Fisk 1B -- Paul Konerko 2B-- Eddie Collins SS-- Luke Appling 3B -- Robin Ventura LF -- Minnie Minoso CF -- Lance Johnson RF-- Harold Banies DH - Frank SP Ed Walsh SP Mark Buehrle SP Billy Pierce SP Jack McDowell SP Chris Sale Closer : Bobby ..... Thigpen I'd hit them ... Minoso (R), Collins( L), Thomas(R), Konerko(R), Ventura(L), Fisk(R), Baines(L), Appling(R), Johnson(L). My worst choice was leaving Magglio off. He was one of my all time favorite players, but so was Baines. I really wanted to cheat and say Minnie could man CF, to bring them both, but didn't want to go that route. Also I could have obviously DHed Baines and moved Frank to 1B, but Pauly needed to be in there more than Magglio. Appling vs. Aparicio was a difficult choice as well, with 2 great options. I ended up taking Appling simply because played for the Sox and no one else, and Aparicio had 8 seasons with other teams. I had to go with Bobby Thigpen, because literally my first memory of White Sox baseball is listening to my games with my Dad, and hearing John Rooney say "Thigpen ready" and it became the thought that went through my head every time, in the backyard, when I came set. After looking over your list, I'm going to agree. Looking at the bench having AJ, Maggs, and Aparicio available would make it easy for any manager. The batting order doesn't feel right but I haven't come up with a better one. How would flipping Ventura with Konerko and Baines with Fisk look? Thomas is a lock in the 3 spot so he would be followed by Ventura (L), Konerko (R), Baines (L) and Fisk (R). I was even looking at Baines in the 4th spot . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I'll toss this in there. Al Lopez would be managing, but damn it was tough to pass over Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Texsox said: After looking over your list, I'm going to agree. Looking at the bench having AJ, Maggs, and Aparicio available would make it easy for any manager. The batting order doesn't feel right but I haven't come up with a better one. How would flipping Ventura with Konerko and Baines with Fisk look? Thomas is a lock in the 3 spot so he would be followed by Ventura (L), Konerko (R), Baines (L) and Fisk (R). I was even looking at Baines in the 4th spot . . . The first time I did it, I had Robin 4th, because that's how they always hit. I also looked at it with Baines 4th, but in the end, I thought that was overthinking it. I think that of those 3 guys ( Paulie, Ventura, and Baines), Paulie is just plainly the best guy to hit 4th. The lineup balance with those guys, well I think it is pretty negligible. It isn't like Konerko struggled against RHP at all, so it isn't a weakness to have Thomas and Konerko back to back. In terms of pure pop, and hitting, I thought Konerko was the guy to hit 4th. The guys at 5-6-7-8 I could really seen an case for any of them being in any position. I could also see the the top being fairly interchangeable with Appling, Collins, and Minoso. All of those guys could hit anywhere in the lineup. Collins feels like a perfect 2 hitter in today's game. High Avg, High OBP, lots of XBH ( in todays game, I'd be many of those would now be HRs, but even if they weren't...I'd also bet he wouldn't be stealing 40+ bases a season in today's game). Minnie had more pop than Appling, so maybe he is better off more in the middle of the lineup? I do love the SB combination that Collins and Minoso offer (and Johnson to boot), that could cause some havoc and distraction in front of Frank and Co. And I left Jackson off, well, really for no good reason. I just love Minnie and put him in LF. The best way to get him in would be to sub him for Johnson and have either Jackson or Minnie in CF. That is obviously a much better offensive team. Then maybe I'd go Collins-Jackson-Thomas-Konerko-Minoso-Ventura-Fisk-Baines-Appling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Just off the top of my head, mainly favorites: 1B: Big Hurt. 2B: Durham. SS-Ozzie. 3B-Robin. LF-Zisk. CF-Lemon. RF-Dye. C-Fisk. P-Buehrle, Hoyt, Peters, Horlen, Jenks. DH-Dick Allen Edited April 11, 2020 by greg775 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, greg775 said: Just off the top of my head, mainly favorites: 1B: Big Hurt. 2B: Durham. SS-Ozzie. 3B-Robin. LF-Zisk. CF-Lemon. RF-Dye. C-Fisk. P-Buehrle, Hoyt, Peters, Horlen, Jenks. DH-Dick Allen Ozzie was a mediocre to bad player the majority of his career. Interesting choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Ozzie was a mediocre to bad player the majority of his career. Interesting choice. Ozzie is one of my all time favorite players and managers both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Ozzie was a mediocre to bad player the majority of his career. Interesting choice. Literally had a 16 year career and was a ROY, 3x AS, and Gold Glover...I've seen worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said: Literally had a 16 year career and was a ROY, 3x AS, and Gold Glover...I've seen worse He just screams "likeability" to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 2:12 PM, greg775 said: Ozzie is one of my all time favorite players and managers both. Kindred spirits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Someone has been reading Soxtalk... https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/chicago-white-sox-all-time-team-big-hurt-konerko-in-middle-of-lineup-buehrle-sale-in-rotation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/7/2020 at 6:45 AM, SoxAce said: I was going to name Shoeless but he mostly played in the corners (LF/RF). Johnny Mostil, great fielder, real high OBP. 5 really strong years in the 1920's, 6 if you count 1921with only 378 plate appearances . Legend has it that he once caught a foul ball while playing CF in a ST game I think. An interesting character, had life difficulties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Johnny Mostil, great fielder, real high OBP. 5 really strong years in the 1920's, 6 if you count 1921with only 378 plate appearances . Legend has it that he once caught a foul ball while playing CF in a ST game I think. An interesting character, had life difficulties. That's amazing . I really hope its true. The mental picture is so fun. Note** My mental picture includes a Dayan Vicedo type LF leisurely taking a couple steps toward the ball. Edited April 15, 2020 by turnin' two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/7/2020 at 9:26 AM, MnSoxFan said: Johnson for CF is a bit weak. Jungle Jim Rivera may be a better choice. Think we had a guy named Roush back around 1920s who was outstanding. Shoeless Joe maybe could have played CF. Johnson career WAR: 30.6. Rivera: 6.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) On 4/11/2020 at 4:57 AM, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Ozzie was a mediocre to bad player the majority of his career. Interesting choice. Ozzie Guillen, 29th in defensive WAR from all players in major league history. Edited April 18, 2020 by Vulture 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/9/2020 at 11:59 AM, Texsox said: I'll toss this in there. Al Lopez would be managing, but damn it was tough to pass over Tony. Wouldn't be a hard decision for me. Tony overmanaged terribly IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Nobody wants Joe Jackson in their outfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 21 hours ago, Vulture said: Ozzie Guillen, 29th in defensive WAR from all players in major league history. My eye test tells me he was a damn fine SS and a pretty good hitter for a lot of White Sox teams. Me likey Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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