SoxSteve Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What is the latest news regarding Oscar Colas? Do we have a chance since he signed with the same agency as Moncada.? Just a wishful thinking on a boring nite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Talked about some in this other thread. July 2nd Latest from Futuresox & our James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Who is following all of them?! Please tell me Cespedes. Nevermind lol Edited May 20, 2020 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Would be a hell of an add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Would much rather have Y. Cespedes than Colas... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 10 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Would much rather have Y. Cespedes than Colas... yes. Are they even in the same stratosphere? Honest question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: yes. Are they even in the same stratosphere? Honest question. Colas and Cespedes are both getting some very high level attention. https://calltothepen.com/2020/02/26/international-prospects-top-5-cuban-players-july-2/3/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Would much rather have Y. Cespedes than Colas... For what it's worth, James outlined a strategy by the Sox to get both of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Quin said: For what it's worth, James outlined a strategy by the Sox to get both of them. I think his lack of rankings internationally is due to the fact he hasn't been cleared to sign yet, but I am going to guess he would be really close to the top of the list based on his tools. The kid could be a star as either a hitter or pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I think his lack of rankings internationally is due to the fact he hasn't been cleared to sign yet, but I am going to guess he would be really close to the top of the list based on his tools. The kid could be a star as either a hitter or pitcher. He wouldn't become a top 100 prospect though, like I assume Cespedes would right? I know that list is arbitrary, but sstill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He wouldn't become a top 100 prospect though, like I assume Cespedes would right? I know that list is arbitrary, but sstill. Colas can hit 95 from the left side, AND is a pretty good offensive player putting up plus numbers in a good pro league in Japan at 21. I think he is in a similar ranking to Cespedes. Even knowing Cespedes was out there Passan called him one of the best players to emerge from Cuba IN YEARS. The big question isn't how good is he, it is if he will be able to sign anytime soon. https://tw itter.com/JeffPassan/status/1213158209126617093?s=20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He wouldn't become a top 100 prospect though, like I assume Cespedes would right? I know that list is arbitrary, but sstill. This is from February, but Longenhagan hasn't heard good things at least. Quote 12:05 Matt: Where would oscar colas rate by fv from what you’ve heard/seen? And any rumors on who lead(s)? 12:06 Eric A Longenhagen: 35, he’ll be on the list of whoever signs him in the honorable mentions. Had a director comp him to a lot of the DH-only type 4A guys https://blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat-2-21-20/ Edited May 21, 2020 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodTim Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Longenhagen also put a 35 FV on Jimmy Lambert and rated Yermin as the #8 prospect in the system. I think it is a lot easier to teach body type and work ethic than it is to teach skill. Put Colas around guys like Robert and Moncada and see how he develops. Because Colas is a prospect with some ability, I hope we sign him. We always need more quality prospects. Also, we should feel pretty good about his chances to play at the AA level immediately, and maybe also play well enough at the AAA level in the same year as his debut. Most of the players who are going to get these high 6 and small 7 figure bonuses are never going to make it that far anyway. And think about it, it's about the same cost as dumping the buyouts on Wellington and Nate Jones. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Colas can hit 95 from the left side, AND is a pretty good offensive player putting up plus numbers in a good pro league in Japan at 21. I think he is in a similar ranking to Cespedes. Even knowing Cespedes was out there Passan called him one of the best players to emerge from Cuba IN YEARS. The big question isn't how good is he, it is if he will be able to sign anytime soon. https://tw itter.com/JeffPassan/status/1213158209126617093?s=20 I thought the league Colas was playing in was the equivalent to rookie ball? It wasn't Japan's main pro league.. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 He’s Dayan Viciedo all over again unless he can really pitch effectively as a reliever...which means he’s going to have to improve greatly on his off-speed stuff, as big league hitters will just lay off of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, SoxAce said: I thought the league Colas was playing in was the equivalent to rookie ball? It wasn't Japan's main pro league.. I could be wrong though. That's correct, the vast majority of the AB's he took was in their "farm league", although he did apparently get some time with the regular club. Link 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxSteve Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Do we have a chance with Cespedas? I haven’t seen us mentioned with him but I might have missed it. And when does this all come down as in when can they sign? Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 hours ago, SoxSteve said: Do we have a chance with Cespedas? I haven’t seen us mentioned with him but I might have missed it. And when does this all come down as in when can they sign? Thanx Yes, we have a chance with both Cespedes and Colas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 16 hours ago, caulfield12 said: He’s Dayan Viciedo all over again unless he can really pitch effectively as a reliever...which means he’s going to have to improve greatly on his off-speed stuff, as big league hitters will just lay off of it. What is this even based off of? You watching a couple highlight videos? Come on man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What is this even based off of? You watching a couple highlight videos? Come on man. He's a chunky Cuban That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodTim Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Viciedo was also supposed to be like Panda Sandoval. if we got that kind of player for a tiny amount of "use it or lose it" money why complain at all? Another thing: IIRC Dayan was the guy who would have gotten us Dunn from the Nats instead of Edwin Jackson. And while hindsight says that was never a good route to travel in, the point is that, if that is true, another MLB GM thought he had more value than Dan Hudson or Edwin Jackson back then. That could have gotten us a pretty good player in a trade regardless. Even if Colas turns into a player we can't really use -- like our version of Miguel Andujar, who I personally think blows anyway -- at least we will have something we can trade for value to some team somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodTim Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I'm not sure how adding Colas is in any way a bad thing, especially at the amounts listed, and while knowing what we seem to know about our organization, i.e. we will never get the kind of prospect the Yankees just signed because we aren't going to start hanging around the playground soliciting children. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Quin said: He's a chunky Cuban That's it. What position is he going to play? 1B, RF, DH....yes? Or we’re basing most of our excitement on Passan/Shohei Ohtani comps? Just not seeing how he’s anything close to fitting in the Robert/Cespedes mold, but very few are... It means, and we’ve debated the value of Jose Abreu for the past three years, that he’s going to have to be an amazing hitter to bring a ton of surplus value. I also haven’t seen many scouts claiming he should or could give up pitching to be a starting pitcher like with Ohtani ever since he was in middle school. I guess part of the attraction is throwing from the LH side, but I guess we’ll find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nothing worse than having a lefty who can throw 95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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