southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 MLB ran side by side clips mirroring his delivery to one Chris Sale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: MLB ran side by side clips mirroring his delivery to one Chris Sale. I hate draft comps in general, but yea. There's some striking similarities. The fastball and slider look filthy. Can't wait to see how he performs as a starter. Upside is huge here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I hate draft comps in general, but yea. There's some striking similarities. The fastball and slider look filthy. Can't wait to see how he performs as a starter. Upside is huge here. I don't care as much about the comp, but the deliveries were almost identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) When do we find out how much under slot it was? Edited June 11, 2020 by SoxBlanco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Ight sign Crochet underslot and give me a prep player round 2 Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: When do we find out how much under slot it was? When he signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Quote Crochet is one of the bigger wild cards in the class, having missed the first three weekends of the spring for undisclosed reasons, then returning for an unannounced, 3 1/3-inning relief outing that only a few area scouts saw on the final weekend of the spring. Crochet has a huge arm, up to 99 with a grade-70 slider that wipes out left-handed batters, helped by some cross-body action to his delivery, but struggled to get right-handed batters out last year and doesn’t pitch as well to his glove side. He flies off the rubber but gets his arm in good position when his front foot lands, and he has average control if not command. He’s got substantial reliever risk, but also has one of the best pure arms in the draft, and someone will probably take him in the first round in the hopes that he can remain a starter. Keith Law's writeup on Crochet, he thinks there's significant reliever risk there, but it's all about keeping him healthy. The Sox are really good at that. The bolded stands out to me. Also, MLB pipeline gave him a 60 grade on his changeup. This guy has stuff to dream on..... Also, Crochet had the top spin rate of any NCAA Fastball IIRC. Edited June 11, 2020 by Jack Parkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: When he signs. Yeah, pretty dumb way to ask that question on my part. When you go under slot with a guy, there has to be an agreement in place that allows you to go over slot in future rounds, right? Does that stuff not leak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: Yeah, pretty dumb way to ask that question on my part. When you go under slot with a guy, there has to be an agreement in place that allows you to go over slot in future rounds, right? Does that stuff not leak? Probably not, but we'll have a good idea if he's underslot after our 2nd rounder tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Where does he fit in the top 10 prospect list for the Sox now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Where does he fit in the top 10 prospect list for the Sox now? I'd probably put him 4/5 1. Robert 2. Kopech 3. Vaughn 4. Madrigal 5. Dunning I think he's totally got a better chance to be a bigger MLB contributor than Madrigal as well as much more likely to flame out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Yeah, pretty dumb way to ask that question on my part. When you go under slot with a guy, there has to be an agreement in place that allows you to go over slot in future rounds, right? Does that stuff not leak? They have exchanged numbers by this stage for sure. They have a really good idea what he is signing for and are planning the rest of their picks based on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 No comments in this thread about his health history, thats a huge concern to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Keith Law's writeup on Crochet, he thinks there's significant reliever risk there, but it's all about keeping him healthy. The Sox are really good at that. The bolded stands out to me. Also, MLB pipeline gave him a 60 grade on his changeup. This guy has stuff to dream on..... Also, Crochet had the top spin rate of any NCAA Fastball IIRC. The cross body action that makes him effective against lefties is also the motion that put stress on his arm, along with the lack of flexion in his follow through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is an odd quote https://mobile.twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1270897909152636928 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, fathom said: This is an odd quote https://mobile.twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1270897909152636928 That is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, fathom said: This is an odd quote https://mobile.twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1270897909152636928 That's just scout speak. That's the same thing that prospect writeups say about Kopech. #3 starter with hopes for more is code for ace upside. Edited June 11, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, ptatc said: The cross body action that makes him effective against lefties is also the motion that put stress on his arm, along with the lack of flexion in his follow through. The hope is that they can keep him healthy until age 30 like they did with Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Little disappointed that’s it’s pronounced like the sewing activity. I thought it was Crotch-it. This is borderline dealbreaker for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, fathom said: This is an odd quote https://mobile.twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1270897909152636928 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: The hope is that they can keep him healthy until age 30 like they did with Sale. The key will be if they can keep him from max velocity on a regular basis like they did with Sale while he was here. That could be tough as they couldn't do it with Kopech. Harder to do in today's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Better be a hefty underslot, shoulder issue can’t be ignored either. Edited June 11, 2020 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodTim Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Little disappointed that’s it’s pronounced like the sewing activity. I thought it was Crotch-it. This is borderline dealbreaker for me. If he could ever learn to pitch to both sides of the plate and ace guys in and out with his fastball then it would be a great name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodTim Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Maybe also the #3 comment has something to do with one of the following: 1) He has the ability to slot behind Gio + Kopech (no shame in being 3rd there) 2) The Sox really think he'll be more of a 180IP guy than a 200+ especially 220+ IP guy that really defines a true ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is like the third high draft choice that they claimed was supposed to be just like Chris Sale. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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